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  • bigdunny1
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    #61
    This is an example of an idiot reading 1 Stat and not watching the actual fight. Trout was totally ineffective yes slightly out landed in total punches but that's because he threw almost double the shots but landed an anemic 20%. Canelo was the harder puncher, more efficient. Landed more power punches at almost a 50% clip even with taking the final 1/3 of the fight off after trout quit. He hurt trout with every shot he landed while trout punches had no impact. Trout did the stanky leg multiple times and finally got dropped. Then quit after being dropped turning the last rounds into nothing more then a sparring session because trout didn't want to get hurt and dropped again. Last rounds made overall compubox stats look closer then the fight was.

    This was like a NBA game where one team pulls away in the 3rd Qtr grabs a huge 20+ lead and the other team quits subs out all their starters so the team thats up takes their foot off the gas takes their best players out too. Fight ends with box score saying they only won by 8. That's because the last quarter turned into meaningless scrub time.
    Last edited by bigdunny1; 04-23-2017, 01:42 PM.

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      #62
      Originally posted by HeadShots
      that is an opinion. even if it's his own. some people r self critical and emotional.


      the facts are he outworked and outlanded canelo.



      it's like you people can't distinguish facts from opinion. the ******ation is astounding here.
      So the opinion of the man who was ACTUALLY in the ring and said he lost doesn't matter? If not for open scoring after canelo drops and has trout on the verge of quitting do you think he would just box the rest of the way or try to finish trout? You are quoting 1 Stat in compubox ignoring the fact that both guys knew the score and 1 guy quit so it turned into a glorified sparring session. Damn you are ****** arguing trout won when he quit and admitted to losing in his own words after the fight.
      Last edited by bigdunny1; 04-23-2017, 01:45 PM.

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      • The Time
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        #63
        Originally posted by Mukuro
        Thanks.



        I agree that Lemieux is one dimensional, but it is a bit disingenuous to pick out his two worst performances and then paint his entire career in that light.

        I like that you emphasize Jacobs as a disputed win, but don't do the same for Canelo's wins over Lara and Trout. In honesty, I thought GGG and Canelo deserved all of those wins. It does show your bias though. As does your need to pick at GGG's opponents without subjecting Canelo's to the same scrutiny.




        In fairness regarding Lemieux. He was a young green 22 year old when he lost those fights to Rubio and Alcine. And his body looked small, like a kids body, (not literally a kid)but you can tell he was a young adult. As the years went on you can see Lemieux's body mature and become more of a man's body, looked stronger and more muscular as time went on compared to back in 2011 when he was 22. And he's matured as a fighter as well compared to back then. I know it seems like he's been around awhile, but Lemieux is only 28 years old actually. He's in his prime years right now actually.
        Last edited by The Time; 04-23-2017, 01:48 PM.

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          #64
          Originally posted by hugh grant
          Trout isn't that good. I love Miguel but quite a few beat him.

          Gggs resume is better. Brook and Jacobs is better than below resume
          what makes Brook such a resume changer?? Brook has done nothing

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            #65
            Originally posted by The Time
            In fairness regarding Lemieux. He was a young green 22 year old when he lost those fights to Rubio and Alcine. And his body looked small, like a kids body. As the years went on you can see Lemieux's body mature and become more of a man's body, looked stronger and more muscular as time wentp on compared to back in 2011 when he was 22. And he's matured as a fighter as well compared to back then. I know it seems like he's been around awhile, but Lemieux is only 28 years old actually. He's in his prime years right now actually.
            At 22 Canelo had already beaten Shane Mosely, Trout, Cintron, Baldomir, and Lopez. At 23 he lost to Mayweather and then beat Lara at 24. At 25 he beat Cotto.,

            Seriously, for a 26 year old fighter, Canelo has an insane resume. If he continues for the next decade fighting top guys twice a year his resume will rival the best of all time. That's the big difference between GGG and Canelo. Canelo started testing himself in his early 20s, GGG his mid 30s.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Johnny2x2x
              At 22 Canelo had already beaten Shane Mosely, Trout, Cintron, Baldomir, and Lopez. At 23 he lost to Mayweather and then beat Lara at 24. At 25 he beat Cotto.,

              Seriously, for a 26 year old fighter, Canelo has an insane resume. If he continues for the next decade fighting top guys twice a year his resume will rival the best of all time. That's the big difference between GGG and Canelo. Canelo started testing himself in his early 20s, GGG his mid 30s.




              Huh? I was commenting on Lemieux. I didn't mention anything about Triple G or Canelo?

              I'm not dis*****g resumes, I already had agreed that Canelo has an edge in resume. Not by a wide margin, but I give him the nod.


              Baldomir (come on), Josesito Lopez (small as ****) and Cintron (shot) are not eye opening. I don't know why you brought those names up. Mosley had already lost to Cotto, Mayweather and Pacquiao. When Canelo fought him Mosley was old and shot to ****.

              Trout is definitely a good name for Canelo at that time.

              Cotto was too small and 35 already. I still give Canelo credit for it. But if he and Cotto were the same size and Cotto not being 35, we would have seen a more competitive fight. Nonetheless I still give Canelo credit for Cotto.

              The standout names for Canelo based on wins are Trout, Lara and Cotto.

              For Triple G the stand out names are Lemieux, Brook and Jacobs.


              And the best of all time is Sugar Ray Robinson, no one will ever rival his resume or him.
              Last edited by The Time; 04-23-2017, 03:19 PM.

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                #67
                Naw Canelo's resume shts all over his.

                GGG resume is comparable to Lucian Bute prior to Froch.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by bigdunny1
                  This is an example of an idiot reading 1 Stat and not watching the actual fight. Trout was totally ineffective yes slightly out landed in total punches but that's because he threw almost double the shots but landed an anemic 20%. Canelo was the harder puncher, more efficient. Landed more power punches at almost a 50% clip even with taking the final 1/3 of the fight off after trout quit. He hurt trout with every shot he landed while trout punches had no impact. Trout did the stanky leg multiple times and finally got dropped. Then quit after being dropped turning the last rounds into nothing more then a sparring session because trout didn't want to get hurt and dropped again. Last rounds made overall compubox stats look closer then the fight was.

                  This was like a NBA game where one team pulls away in the 3rd Qtr grabs a huge 20+ lead and the other team quits subs out all their starters so the team thats up takes their foot off the gas takes their best players out too. Fight ends with box score saying they only won by 8. That's because the last quarter turned into meaningless scrub time.


                  no i watched the fight.


                  canelo spent the majority of the fight evading action and on the ropes.


                  he gave away ring generalship on top of getting outlanded and outworked.



                  that is 3 of the most important scoring criterias. not 1.


                  so stop lying

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                  • bigdunny1
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                    #69
                    Canelo resume says he has beaten more then DOUBLE the amount of world Champs as GGG. Beaten hall of famers and top P4P 10 ranked fighters. GGG hasn't faced any HOFers or top 10 p4p ranked fighters. And canelo has done all that at 26 while GGG is 35. Just off the eyeball test canelo has faced more known, higher ranked opponents then GGG. Canelo opponents have done more in the sport and received more respect and accolades for a reason. Only an idiot thinks guys like lemieux, geale, jacobs are comparable to floyd, cotto, trout, mosley, lara, etc.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by bigdunny1
                      Canelo resume says he has beaten more then DOUBLE the amount of world Champs as GGG. Beaten hall of famers and top P4P 10 ranked fighters. GGG hasn't faced any HOFers or top 10 p4p ranked fighters. And canelo has done all that at 26 while GGG is 35. Just off the eyeball test canelo has faced more known, higher ranked opponents then GGG. Canelo opponents have done more in the sport and received more respect and accolades for a reason. Only an idiot thinks guys like lemieux, geale, jacobs are comparable to floyd, cotto, trout, mosley, lara, etc.



                      most importantly, ducked GGG. that's a part of his resume. another fact of history.


                      GGG > Canelo

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