Where does Mayweather rank realistically on an all time list?

[LetOutTheCage]

Credit doesn't equate to greatness. Even with the "less respect" you give to Floyd, his resume stil pisses all over Hopkins. It's not even a conversation.

^This guy is a master at taking L's #StreetFighterScrub

[Dosumpthin]

Its not hard to find a fighter you'd be under dog against but Floyd never tried hard enough, not willing to take risks. Fight GGG. Fight Sergio Martinez. He diudnt fight toughest opponents available. Fight brook instead of berto. Yes brook would be underdog but hres better than berto. So if your going to fight underdogs fight the strongest underdog at least
If Floyd fought people nearer their primes he wouldn't be such a favourite anyway. When PAC was destroying everyone before beijng koed by jmm it would be toss up who'd win in most opinions. Same for dlh and SSM. Fight nelo now. In their primes. So floyd isn't above BH just cos he has thoise names on his CV.
BH is above Floyd as he fought prime fighters when BH was advanced in age.
BH is greater than Floyd as he dared to be great. He fought kovalev. Floyd on the other hand saiusaiud he's earnt the right to fight berto? Sums it up for me

The thought process of a MayHater.

Contradictory rambling rant.

Smh.

[b00g13man]

^This guy is a master at taking L's #StreetFighterScrub

Looooooool. Still butthurt I see...

You heard about the mess that is MEAMP?

[LetOutTheCage]

Looooooool. Still butthurt I see...

You heard about the mess that is MEAMP?

No? I just keep hearing from Tigger how good it looks, he's already pre-ordered it...Smh.

[Johnwoo8686]

And there lies the problem, you don't think Hopkins should gets credit for taking on Kovalev at 49? Wasn't he the first fighter to take Kovalev past 8 rounds?

Should Calzaghe be considered great also? After all he has Roy Jones and Hopkins on his resume...No of course he shouldn't! because Jones was washed up when he fought him and he arguably should of lost to Hopkins imo. Its not about penalizing Mayweather for being too good, he gets less respect because of when he fought his opponents. Timing is an important factor.

So Hopkins gets credit for fighting champions at an advanced age but Mayweather doesn't? Floyd was over 35 when he beat Canelo, Cotto, and Pacquiao all fighters who are far more accomplished than Kovalev. This is what hype does to people, it has the thinking Kovalev is somehow a better fighter than the three I mentioned. And unlike Hopkins, Floyd won all of his biggest fights while moving up more weight divisions. For that he gets more credit from me.

[b00g13man]

No? I just keep hearing from Tigger how good it looks, he's already pre-ordered it...Smh.

He might want to cancel that from what I've heard.

[nubianpiye]

Mentioning that Floyd wasn't underdog in his fights is silly so what? that doesn't mean anything other than you were better than everyone.

[hugh grant]

Mentioning that Floyd wasn't underdog in his fights is silly so what? that doesn't mean anything other than you were better than everyone.

Yes, maybe that. Or you weren't taking risks. Or that your opponents weren't that good. PAC favourede against just about everyone. He lost to Bradley, yet was favourite in rematch.
He was underdog against dlh yet when PAC beat them the excuses came flying in.
Floyd not being underdog I'm afraid to say means he weren't taking enough riskjs. All the people he's been favourite against PAC was also but pac is smaller

[nubianpiye]

Yes, maybe that. Or you weren't taking risks. Or that your opponents weren't that good. PAC favourede against just about everyone. He lost to Bradley, yet was favourite in rematch.
He was underdog against dlh yet when PAC beat them the excuses came flying in.
Floyd not being underdog I'm afraid to say means he weren't taking enough riskjs. All the people he's been favourite against PAC was also but pac is smaller

Complete nonsense if your considered there best you are going to be favourite over everyone you fight is a simple principle. Golovkin had been favourite against all odds his opponents since I've known him doesn't mean his fight against Jacob's this weekend isn't one he deserves credit for.

[GhostofDempsey]

I would have him placed outside of 50, no doubt. There was just way too much talent over the last several decades to rank him higher. When you consider all of the fighters who he dodged or avoided, that he never fought an elite fighter in his respective prime, and never truly put himself to the test. His sketchy use of an IV also casts doubt on his career and one has to wonder if he fought dirty for most of his career. There is a lot of speculation of suspect testosterone levels and sealed tests. All things considered, I can't see him beating the all-time greats or the P4P best.