Where does Mayweather rank realistically on an all time list?

[UNBIASED BOXING]

I dont rate him above Sugar Ray Leonard ot Roy Jones Jr. Sorry dudes.

[hugh grant]

Complete nonsense if your considered there best you are going to be favourite over everyone you fight is a simple principle. Golovkin had been favourite against all odds his opponents since I've known him doesn't mean his fight against Jacob's this weekend isn't one he deserves credit for.

If your favourite against nelo why do you need cw?
Pac is also favouruyte against everyone. Unless he steps up 2 divisions to fight dlh! Why dontFloyd step up and fight GGG? If Floyd beats people he wasn't expected to, then he was better than we expected and we will never underestimate him again. Other than that we can rate Floyd a certain level, ie see him as faviuriyte against who he fights, but not a meal ticket into top 20 atgs. Basically floyd having being favourite against who he has been fsvourite asgainst doesnt make him top 20.
Floyd never takes risks though.

[nubianpiye]

If your favourite against nelo why do you need cw?
Pac is also favouruyte against everyone. Unless he steps up 2 divisions to fight dlh! Why dontFloyd step up and fight GGG? If Floyd beats people he wasn't expected to, then he was better than we expected and we will never underestimate him again. Other than that we can rate Floyd a certain level, ie see him as faviuriyte against who he fights, but not a meal ticket into top 20 atgs. Basically floyd having being favourite against who he has been fsvourite asgainst doesnt make him top 20.
Floyd never takes risks though.

Floyd already in his fifth weight class plus he's retired and 40 years old grow up

[hugh grant]

Floyd already in his fifth weight class plus he's retired and 40 years old grow up

Yes not sure he can beast GGG now. But nothing to stop him trying. But should have beasbeast Sergio all those years back.
Why diud he need vcw against nelo when hevwas favourite? Was the zero that important?

[nubianpiye]

Yes not sure he can beast GGG now. But nothing to stop him trying. But should have beasbeast Sergio all those years back.
Why diud he need vcw against nelo when hevwas favourite? Was the zero that important?

You just continue to show ignorance would Floyd have still been favourite at 154? Was camel 153 in his previous fight? Honestly to spend so much time trying to alter history because you haye this man is sad.

[hugh grant]

You just continue to show ignorance would Floyd have still been favourite at 154? Was camel 153 in his previous fight? Honestly to spend so much time trying to alter history because you haye this man is sad.

No. I like Floyd but I'm realistic. I like Floyd senior even more. I got floyd at 20atg. That's not action of hater. I never make Floyd threads disrespecting him. But if people make threads I'm entitled too have say
I knoiw what top 20 atg have done. They've better resumes with better signatuysignatuyre wins, against prime fighters. Don't matter that they lost a few. Floyd lost to a few in my opinion but the fact floyod lost a few isn't why I dfoiwngrade floyd. Its the fact jphis best win is against smaller sized guys past prime or not far removed from being koed. Floyd's downgraded because he didn't take risks his peers did. How well Duran did against haglker is better than anything Floyd did.

Floyd said he'd beat GGG, but don't fight him? Its clear legacy is important to fkloyd but he wasn't brave enough or confident enough to complete his journey. He didn't fight abroad!

But he is unbeaten whic h was the main thing for fkoiyd but it hard to gauge fkloyd when that unbeasten record consumed him so much, it effected his choices and every move and action and made him make bad decisions at the expense of his legacy. It made him be cautious with cw, not taking toughest fights for legacy.

[rathalos]

below pac...
30-40

[nubianpiye]

No. I like Floyd but I'm realistic. I like Floyd senior even more. I got floyd at 20atg. That's not action of hater. I never make Floyd threads disrespecting him. But if people make threads I'm entitled too have say
I knoiw what top 20 atg have done. They've better resumes with better signatuysignatuyre wins, against prime fighters. Don't matter that they lost a few. Floyd lost to a few in my opinion but the fact floyod lost a few isn't why I dfoiwngrade floyd. Its the fact jphis best win is against smaller sized guys past prime or not far removed from being koed. Floyd's downgraded because he didn't take risks his peers did. How well Duran did against haglker is better than anything Floyd did.

Floyd said he'd beat GGG, but don't fight him? Its clear legacy is important to fkloyd but he wasn't brave enough or confident enough to complete his journey. He didn't fight abroad!

But he is unbeaten whic h was the main thing for fkoiyd but it hard to gauge fkloyd when that unbeasten record consumed him so much, it effected his choices and every move and action and made him make bad decisions at the expense of his legacy. It made him be cautious with cw, not taking toughest fights for legacy.

You area a hypocrite why should a man have to move to his seventh weight class? moving up 5 isn't enough are you joking and at 40 years old? what over ATG was expected to take on there greatest challenge at 40? having been retired for two years? you are talking complete and utter non senseFloyd has never fought at middle any talk of him ducking Glolovkin is complete and utter foolishness as not only have they never fought in the same weight class Glolovkin isn't a draw but expects big pay days he's turned down 15M to fight Canelo how much do you think he'd expect to fight Floyd? 20 - 25 Million? More? are you joking? when a fight fan talks about Floyd fighting Golovkin it just shows they aren't interested in Floyd fighting they are interested in him losing.

[The D3vil]

the skill elvel looks a whole lot better when i compare modern fighters to the old black and white clips. apart from the heavyweights.

You're seeing guys more skilled than Sugar Ray Robinson & Willie Pep out there. Oh, okay

Being un beaten doesnt mean anything to anyo e other than the ego of the unbeaten fighter, so it shouldn't even be mentioned when assesing or praising Floyd. Especially so when nobody thinks he's unbeaten anyway. He lost to Castillo, he lost to maidana as well many believe. People don't even think he really beat PAC and dlh. Did he fight the toughrest opponents avasilabke? Well, no he fought berto instead of brook or Thurman.
How many risks did Floyd take? Dlh at 154 was but too little too late! Did he fight hatton at his best weight, cw with green nelo, past prime ssm and dlh, so not too many. How many prime fighters diud he fight and beat and how good were they in the first place? Did he fight abroad? Your not going to get decisions abroad. Floyd chasing kos in people backyards you might as well add a few more losses on Floyd's resume.
You could go on and on. That's why BH and PAC above Floyd.

You started off okay, but literally NOBODY but Floyd haters think Maidana, De La Hoya, or Pacquiao. That's just ridiculous. Now Castillo, fine, but still 48-1 is pretty damned good, considering that he fought and defeated 25 world champions. He beat Cotto, Corrales, Maidana, Gatti, Canelo, Judah, Mosley, etc. . .

Let's not forget, he was at an advanced age when he fought at lot of those guys too.

And please, gett outta here with the whole "fight abroad" thing.

Just more hater talk.

If you don't like the guy, you don't like the guy, fine, but why the hell would the highest draw in the history of boxing have to chase anybody anywhere.

He beat the people they put in front of him (except Castillo in the first fight)

Its not hard to find a fighter you'd be under dog against but Floyd never tried hard enough, not willing to take risks. Fight GGG. Fight Sergio Martinez. He diudnt fight toughest opponents available. Fight brook instead of berto. Yes brook would be underdog but hres better than berto. So if your going to fight underdogs fight the strongest underdog at least
If Floyd fought people nearer their primes he wouldn't be such a favourite anyway. When PAC was destroying everyone before beijng koed by jmm it would be toss up who'd win in most opinions. Same for dlh and SSM. Fight nelo now. In their primes. So floyd isn't above BH just cos he has thoise names on his CV.
BH is above Floyd as he fought prime fighters when BH was advanced in age.
BH is greater than Floyd as he dared to be great. He fought kovalev. Floyd on the other hand saiusaiud he's earnt the right to fight berto? Sums it up for me

Why the **** would Floyd fight a guy 2 weight classes up at 38, 39 years old? That makes ZERO since.

It'd be one thing if he was 28 or something.

Bernard Hopkins fought the people he had to fight because he wasn't the draw that Mayweather was. He fought Kovalev at 49 because he's not gonna be able to dictate his own terms at that age.

And why do people only focus on Floyd's career from like 34-39?

Dude, fought everybody they put in front of him in the first half of his career from Zab Judah, to De la Hoya, to Corrales, Castillo, Marquez, and Hatton. That's a damned good resume.

I would have him placed outside of 50, no doubt. There was just way too much talent over the last several decades to rank him higher. When you consider all of the fighters who he dodged or avoided, that he never fought an elite fighter in his respective prime, and never truly put himself to the test. His sketchy use of an IV also casts doubt on his career and one has to wonder if he fought dirty for most of his career. There is a lot of speculation of suspect testosterone levels and sealed tests. All things considered, I can't see him beating the all-time greats or the P4P best.

LMAO, Evander Holyfield literally had ESPN call his house from his steroid doctor, yet we all still consider him an all-time great fighter.

There's been more than enough smoke about Pacquiao and why he didn't want to take a blood test, yet all of a sudden, everybody is so vigilant about drug usage when there could be a figment of a possibility that Floyd used something before one of his fights. Hilarious.

[Dosumpthin]

Safe to say 40 year old Floyd would be the favorite in Vegas @ 154 vs GGG if the fight were made today thanks to Jacobs.



I guess this now means the haters would not give Floyd credit if he UD ggg.....because "Floyd wasn't the underdog.....derp"



Think about that.


@ 40 years old - there are no potential reasonable weight class match ups were Floyd would be the underdog or expected to lose.

That's how unrealistically Floyd domintated everyone for 20 years.



There's no one fighting today that can beat him at 40 years old.


Definitely no one the haters would give him the deserved credit for @ 40.


PROOF FLOYD IS TBE FOR MOST BOXING HISTORIANS. Or at least top 3.