Where does Mayweather rank realistically on an all time list?
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We can't have it both ways, either its cheating or it is not. Floyd himself claims it is, yet he feels he is above the rules when gaining an edge. He doesn't get a pass, especially when he is the one who started this whole movement of blood testing.You're seeing guys more skilled than Sugar Ray Robinson & Willie Pep out there. Oh, okay
You started off okay, but literally NOBODY but Floyd haters think Maidana, De La Hoya, or Pacquiao. That's just ridiculous. Now Castillo, fine, but still 48-1 is pretty damned good, considering that he fought and defeated 25 world champions. He beat Cotto, Corrales, Maidana, Gatti, Canelo, Judah, Mosley, etc. . .
Let's not forget, he was at an advanced age when he fought at lot of those guys too.
And please, gett outta here with the whole "fight abroad" thing.
Just more hater talk.
If you don't like the guy, you don't like the guy, fine, but why the hell would the highest draw in the history of boxing have to chase anybody anywhere.
He beat the people they put in front of him (except Castillo in the first fight)
Why the **** would Floyd fight a guy 2 weight classes up at 38, 39 years old? That makes ZERO since.
It'd be one thing if he was 28 or something.
Bernard Hopkins fought the people he had to fight because he wasn't the draw that Mayweather was. He fought Kovalev at 49 because he's not gonna be able to dictate his own terms at that age.
And why do people only focus on Floyd's career from like 34-39?
Dude, fought everybody they put in front of him in the first half of his career from Zab Judah, to De la Hoya, to Corrales, Castillo, Marquez, and Hatton. That's a damned good resume.
LMAO, Evander Holyfield literally had ESPN call his house from his steroid doctor, yet we all still consider him an all-time great fighter.
There's been more than enough smoke about Pacquiao and why he didn't want to take a blood test, yet all of a sudden, everybody is so vigilant about drug usage when there could be a figment of a possibility that Floyd used something before one of his fights. Hilarious.Comment
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Point was the haters saying Floyd was never an "underdog" therefore never challenged himself as an ATG. Its a ****** narrative.
There was never a time in which GGG would be the favorite @ 154 no matter how big the hype job.
Floyd is never the underdog because there isn't anyone better. Period.
And if you didn't know back then, you should know now after ggg vs Jacobs - Floyd would UD GGG and was, is and will always be "easy work".
FACTO.
As far as your other comment:
There are no professional boxers who would turn down a PPV event vs McGuzzler. Add Floyd to the equation and that's a lot of money to be made for a 40 yo retiree.
It would be for entertaining purpose only.
Not like there is a fighter out there that would beat Floyd right now anyway.Comment
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Floyd likely would not be the favorite, and he would not come at GGG the way Jacobs did. Not only that, his punches would be ineffective, GGG would walk right through them and walk him down.Point was the haters saying Floyd was never an "underdog" therefore never challenged himself as an ATG. Its a ****** narrative.
There was never a time in which GGG would be the favorite @ 154 no matter how big the hype job.
Floyd is never the underdog because there isn't anyone better. Period.
And if you didn't know back then, you should know now after ggg vs Jacobs - Floyd would UD GGG and was, is and will always be "easy work".
FACTO.
As far as your other comment:
There are no professional boxers who would turn down a PPV event vs McGuzzler. Add Floyd to the equation and that's a lot of money to be made for a 40 yo retiree.
It would be for entertaining purpose only.
Not like there is a fighter out there that would beat Floyd right now anyway.
As for the McGregor fight, that is not for entertainment purposes only, it actually goes in the record books as a 50th win, which is disgraceful. Just when you thought it didn't get any worse than Berto, Ortiz, Guerrero, he pulls an MMA fighter out of his ass for a money grab and an undeserved 50th win.
Anyone who truly believes Floyd is the best ever must have come to boxing in the last few years and totally ignored the previous decades of true champions.Comment
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Floyd fight GGG at 160 already. None of the fighters Floyd's been favourite against were going to get him into top 20 PFP.
None of this at 154 business! Bein g favoiurite and beating ggg at 154 dont get fkoyd into top 15. Beating ggg at 160 bets fkoyd into top 5. GGG only says 154 as he knoiws Floyd dont take risks. GGG wants to know how great Floyd really can get. Do you think GGG really wants to fight at 154?Last edited by hugh grant; 03-19-2017, 05:55 PM.Comment
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Floyd fight GGG at 160 already. None of the fighters Floyd's been favourite against were going to get him into top 20 PFP.
None of this at 154 business! Bein g favoiurite and beating ggg at 154 dont get fkoyd into top 15. Beating ggg at 160 bets fkoyd into top 5. GGG only says 154 as he knoiws Floyd dont take risks. GGG wants to know how great Floyd really can get. Do you think GGG really wants to fight at 154?
Naw GGG still got Danny problems. Floyd is set on Conor and the exhibition fight.Comment
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GGG? Why does he need to drain himself down to 154? Can't Floyd just fight GGG at 160 for the belts like you Floyd fans wanted when Cotto moved up and got Martinez's belts?Safe to say 40 year old Floyd would be the favorite in Vegas @ 154 vs GGG if the fight were made today thanks to Jacobs.
I guess this now means the haters would not give Floyd credit if he UD ggg.....because "Floyd wasn't the underdog.....derp"
Think about that.
@ 40 years old - there are no potential reasonable weight class match ups were Floyd would be the underdog or expected to lose.
That's how unrealistically Floyd domintated everyone for 20 years.
There's no one fighting today that can beat him at 40 years old.
Definitely no one the haters would give him the deserved credit for @ 40.
PROOF FLOYD IS TBE FOR MOST BOXING HISTORIANS. Or at least top 3.
Secondly and more importantly, when was the last time that your hero Floyd took on a truly risky fight where he was not the favorite?
That is why you cannot rank Floyd high in my books. The risky fights were there but Floyd either DUCKED them or waited out until the guy was no longer the same fighter ....Comment
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STFU clown! You have been exposed in the Mayweather hit list thread. As soon as Floyd would win you'd move the goal post again like you always do. Floyd could beat Wlad then you'd move on to the next... you pieces of **** would never be satisfied until Floyd lost. Just do us all a favor and don't post in threads about Mayweather because you're a delusional clown.Floyd fight GGG at 160 already. None of the fighters Floyd's been favourite against were going to get him into top 20 PFP.
None of this at 154 business! Bein g favoiurite and beating ggg at 154 dont get fkoyd into top 15. Beating ggg at 160 bets fkoyd into top 5. GGG only says 154 as he knoiws Floyd dont take risks. GGG wants to know how great Floyd really can get. Do you think GGG really wants to fight at 154?Comment
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