Lemieux cheated. Why are y'all praising him?

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

Good bolding on my post sir, Respect, but if the NY commission doesn't require a 2nd weigh in then I view their requirements as the main requirements so the IBF whatever belt rules are non-binding as the fight can take place regardless of the IBF whatever belt being involved.

Like I said I don't deny its several bad things, but I personally couldn't call it cheating.

I mean Stevens was cool with it to the point of not asking for more money or even a threat of calling off the fight until some middle ground could be reached with a new agreement for a new 2nd weigh in requirement or anything.

Stevens just accepted the fight with the knowledge that Lemeiux didn't have to make the 2nd weigh in. Stevens accepted the new rules basically. So even if he was of the understanding that there would be a 2nd weigh in upon the knowledge of it not taking place for Lemieux he didn't see it as cheating to call off the fight or even come to new terms as a fix or get a money settlement for being okay with this alleged "cheating".

Well, I think we can agree that in technicality Lemieux did cheat and the one that needs to get their **** together is boxing (obviously). How are you gonna have one body (the commission) not requiring one thing while another (the IBF) requiring something else and then fighters can get away with **** such as this one.

And of course Stevens isn't gonna have a problem with it. How many times have we seen fighters miss weight and the other is ok with it simply because of the money involved in it. Stevens isn't just gonna throw away his payday. Then we also have the corrupted side of boxing and bribes such as, "If you pull away from this fight you won't get a date again because we invested too much money into this event and we're not gonna let it go to waste." You know, **** like that.

[Eff Pandas]

How is Stevens dumb for doing what he agreed to do?

I wouldn't call the cerebral assassin ******, but if he felt this was an unfair advantage & he didn't reset terms that is on him. I mean this info wasn't told to him as he was walking into the ring. There was time to come up with a middle ground that involved some new sort of weight requirement by the fighters, with or without the IBF on board, or a monetary payout.

In other words for example if you & I have made a agreement to bet on a series of chess games or whatever with me giving you 2 to 1 odds since I happen to have more experience than you, but then I learn in our first game that you are better than I thought we can remake our agreement & make it a 1-1 odds bet. Thats more or less what happened here. Lemeiux was supposed to do a 2nd weigh in, but didn't. Stevens made no new agreement for money or even some new oops you missed your 2nd weigh in middle ground 2nd weigh in to even things out somehow so basically Stevens had agreed to this new fight with no 2nd weigh in for Lemeiux.

[Lester Tutor]

I hate to say this. But I guess it's all in the job. Saddens me that Bhop had to stand in frame of the picture when Lemieux received the winning victory interview.

What really bothers me was David's wandering throughout the ring when Curtis' crew and personnel were facilitating the situation. This is what we must admire about Alvarez. Even if it's his job, he goes to make sure the rival is ok...that is a go show of sportsmanship and that karma will bring him victory when he beats ggg and Lemeiux.

Where's Keith Idec with his followup on this. Would like to hear his social responsibility regarding an issue he provided.

[Eff Pandas]

And of course Stevens isn't gonna have a problem with it. How many times have we seen fighters miss weight and the other is ok with it simply because of the money involved in it. Stevens isn't just gonna throw away his payday. Then we also have the corrupted side of boxing and bribes such as, "If you pull away from this fight you won't get a date again because we invested too much money into this event and we're not gonna let it go to waste." You know, **** like that.

Fighters often got problems with weight stuff idk what you mean. Its a fairly common practice to get extra money when a fighter doesn't make weight. In my mind missing a 2nd weigh in is missing weight. Idk if anyone has gotten a monetary payout for a 2nd weigh in situation before, I can't think of one, but I think Stevens had a hand to play here he just chose not to play it.

If things got to the point where Stevens is the one about to look bad then he could've always just said "well f#ck it then I'll fight, but you're a piece of sh^t", but how things went down I don't see a leg Stevens has to stand on with this "cheating" stuff.

And I'm just thinking outside the box with coming to some new 2nd weigh in requirement if this was something Stevens felt was unfair so that could be a legit road he could've took or something that had no viability to happen I don't really know, but I know Stevens could have gotten more money before agreeing to still accept the fight.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

I hate to say this. But I guess it's all in the job. Saddens me that Bhop had to stand in frame of the picture when Lemieux received the winning victory interview.

What really bothers me was David's wandering throughout the ring when Curtis' crew and personnel were facilitating the situation. This is what we must admire about Alvarez. Even if it's his job, he goes to make sure the rival is ok...that is a go show of sportsmanship and that karma will bring him victory when he beats ggg and Lemeiux.

Where's Keith Idec with his followup on this. Would like to hear his social responsibility regarding an issue he provided.

While I don't agree with half of the trolling in this post of yours( ), I do agree that no matter how much **** was said before the fight, you need to put the differences aside when someone's life is at stake. In the end, Stevens had already paid for everything he said by being knocked out cold.

Lemieux won the fight and got his pay back for everything that was said. After the fight, in the ring, it was time to show some concern for another fellow human. After all, Stevens words were harmless compared to what he just suffered along with his mother who was there. Sure he is fine but hindsight is 20/20.

[Rip Chudd]

Here you go bro.


See any word in the definition that was used in your post?

Hint: I bolded it in your quote.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

Lol maybe I came across as a d*ck there but I wasn't trying to mock Effz. He's a cool intellectual dude when it comes to posting.

[brettWall]

Troll thread, indeed. You only now care because the outcome didn't suit you. I don't even get these kinds of complaints. You gain weight, but you also lose speed. Bottom line is the gain is not because of some sinister plan, but a result of natural craving any starving human body needs.

Why end the second weight rule with Stevens/Lemieux? You might as well implement it in all fights. Jermall, for example, was obviously way bigger on fight night compared to Williams, but it was listed on the screen showing Williams was bigger by one pounds. How the hell did that happen?

[bigdunny1]

This is not cheating it's bush league yes. Unprofessional to agree to this then blow it off. Stevens was under a restriction because he needed to make second weight for the belt and because both camps agreed to fight for this belt. Lemieux hoped off the scales and went full tilt adding extra weight and said screw the ibf belt without telling Stevens camp. But that's not illegal not cheating. Gamesmanship, bush league, lame, unprofessional sure.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

Fighters often got problems with weight stuff idk what you mean. Its a fairly common practice to get extra money when a fighter doesn't make weight. In my mind missing a 2nd weigh in is missing weight. Idk if anyone has gotten a monetary payout for a 2nd weigh in situation before, I can't think of one, but I think Stevens had a hand to play here he just chose not to play it.

If things got to the point where Stevens is the one about to look bad then he could've always just said "well f#ck it then I'll fight, but you're a piece of sh^t", but how things went down I don't see a leg Stevens has to stand on with this "cheating" stuff.

And I'm just thinking outside the box with coming to some new 2nd weigh in requirement if this was something Stevens felt was unfair so that could be a legit road he could've took or something that had no viability to happen I don't really know, but I know Stevens could have gotten more money before agreeing to still accept the fight.

Idk. Maybe you are right, since the commission doesn't require the second day weigh in, maybe Stevens DID NOT have a leg to stand on after all and ask for more money. Which brings up my previous point that we can't have two bodies with two different requirements or in this case one requiring one thing while the other one doesn't.