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  • #51
    Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
    Fighters often got problems with weight stuff idk what you mean. Its a fairly common practice to get extra money when a fighter doesn't make weight. In my mind missing a 2nd weigh in is missing weight. Idk if anyone has gotten a monetary payout for a 2nd weigh in situation before, I can't think of one, but I think Stevens had a hand to play here he just chose not to play it.

    If things got to the point where Stevens is the one about to look bad then he could've always just said "well f#ck it then I'll fight, but you're a piece of sh^t", but how things went down I don't see a leg Stevens has to stand on with this "cheating" stuff.

    And I'm just thinking outside the box with coming to some new 2nd weigh in requirement if this was something Stevens felt was unfair so that could be a legit road he could've took or something that had no viability to happen I don't really know, but I know Stevens could have gotten more money before agreeing to still accept the fight.
    Knowing Duva's behavior she would normally be infuriated by such circumstances. Main Events could've been compensated by GBP on some non-disclosure agreement to keep the fight a go for the integrity of HBO...

    If that's the case, then we can't do anything about it and it was all on Stevens to go with it. I hope for Stevens it was all worth it.

    Of course it could all be theory. But the promoters and the networks run tingz..

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    • #52
      Originally posted by BreWall View Post
      Troll thread, indeed. You only now care because the outcome didn't suit you. I don't even get these kinds of complaints.?
      Sitcho ass down somewhere

      Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
      Since Lemieux skipped that second day weigh in he's probably 180lbs. I'm taking Lemieux by KO 3x

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
        Sitcho ass down somewhere
        Don't worry bro. Alvarez will KO the Canadian when the time comes. Ironically and unfortunately for Stevens' health, seems to all have been orchestrad to match up Nelo with Lemeiux as a potential candidate for Sept. We can tell this because Lemeiux wasn'the gun ho for the Gennady rematch when Max asked. So something is happening behind the scenes. Consider even Lemeiux vs Saunders as something Warren and Oscars might have been working on.

        It''s a decent defense for BJS to consider and less dangerous than fighting Golovkin. If by chance Lemeiux were to steal a WBO strap then oh boy do GBP have many options to play with. In fact that might be the road for Nelo to acquire it too. I would rather have UK backing for Alvarez vs BJS. Better numbers imo.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by .:: JSFD26 ::. View Post
          Which brings up my previous point that we can't have two bodies with two different requirements or in this case one requiring one thing while the other one doesn't.
          We can definitely agree on that. Then again idk how easy or possible it'd be to get every commission in the world getting all the alphabet groups in the world in agreement.

          For example MMA, ran by the same commissions boxing is in the US & other places, just made some rule changes & they got a clusterf#ck going on with some commissions accepting them & some not (or at least yet, believe the NSAC said they'd accept them in 2018 lol) & some commissions (like Brazil's last night) saying they will accept certain rule changes & not others.

          Boxing would be so much easier if the states weren't involved at all & some big money people just created a league like the NFL, MLB or NBA (& other major sports leagues in the US & elsewhere) did & ran things like they wanted & with a drive towards promoting boxing over all else.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
            Lemieux being able to handle Stevens shots more is an advantage
            David had about a 7 pound weight advantage according to the unofficial scales.

            I am going to stick to Stevens' shortcomings as the real culprit

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Mirko Troll Cop View Post
              Knowing Duva's behavior she would normally be infuriated by such circumstances. Main Events could've been compensated by GBP on some non-disclosure agreement to keep the fight a go for the integrity of HBO...

              If that's the case, then we can't do anything about it and it was all on Stevens to go with it. I hope for Stevens it was all worth it.

              Of course it could all be theory. But the promoters and the networks run tingz..
              True. Good points.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
                We can definitely agree on that. Then again idk how easy or possible it'd be to get every commission in the world getting all the alphabet groups in the world in agreement.

                For example MMA, ran by the same commissions boxing is in the US & other places, just made some rule changes & they got a clusterf#ck going on with some commissions accepting them & some not (or at least yet, believe the NSAC said they'd accept them in 2018 lol) & some commissions (like Brazil's last night) saying they will accept certain rule changes & not others.

                Boxing would be so much easier if the states weren't involved at all & some big money people just created a league like the NFL, MLB or NBA (& other major sports leagues in the US & elsewhere) did & ran things like they wanted & with a drive towards promoting boxing over all else.
                Weren't there like 2 senators or some type of government officials a few years back running a bill or something to do this with boxing? Im pretty sure I read something about it somewhere a few years back.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
                  True. Good points.
                  Cobra has better points though. It just sucks because if Main Events were cool with it, there's really no point nor can Stevens nor Kathy even address it.

                  So in a way Keith Idec's reporting was interesting. He might not even be able to further it.

                  On the tactical side. 5 more pounds to Stevens could've helped. I just thought Stevens would use the ring more, and have David reset or have him miss. But what I did like was how David reacted to the fatty Everlasts. When Nelo lands he''s gonna feel it a lot more!

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                  • #59
                    I agree with you that he broke the rules. I don't agree that I must not give him any credit for this win. That is just your opinion and your personal choice. You sound like someone who wanted Stevens to win. If Stevens had broken the same rules and won the fight I doubt you would start a thread about it.In the big majority of fights the boxer only has to make weight at the weigh in and there is no second weigh in. The fact is Lemieux weighed in a full pound under the weight limit and totally out classed and destroyed a good middleweight in Stevens. I give him full credit for fighting a great fight and scoring an incredible knockout.

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                    • #60
                      that is pretty ***ed up

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