How Jermall Charlo can become a huge star and prove himself overnight

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  • Sledgeweather17
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    #31
    Originally posted by Boxing Logic
    What Charlo should do is pull what Brook did with Eubank Jr., but do it publicly. Go on video playing up the villain/badass persona even more, and say "Yo GGG, I hear you been having trouble getting opponents. I hear Danny Jacobs has been reluctant to sign on the dotted line. Well how about you face a real champion. I'm also with Al Haymon just like Jacobs, so this is my offer. If Jacobs won't accept your offer for March 18, I am willing to take that offer instead, with the exact same terms, and fight you March 18 at 160 for your three belts."

    Jermall coming off this big knockout... THIS is how fighters were able to grow out of just being belt holders, and become real superstars, in the old days. This is how it was done rather than the 100% risk adverse bull**** so many do today.

    Jermall can really ride this momentum into stardom. He is naturally bigger than GGG so there's no reason this can't happen. And it would only serve Jermall's brand, so to speak, even more if he could upstage Jacobs, and make it look like everyone is ducking GGG, but Jermall is willing to jump in front of all those guys and take on the challenge. It would be a bad-ass power play we haven't seen in boxing since, well, Brook, but that was kind of reactive. Eubank Jr. had already messed it up, then Hearn offered it to Brook. If Charlo could actually go call GGG out ahead of time, and not a generic bs callout like Lara did but a real one where he says he will take the Jacobs offer for the Jacobs date right away, that would be a power play in boxing by someone truly aiming for stardom that we haven't seen in awhile.

    And to me GGG-Jermall Charlo is interchangeable with GGG-Jacobs in terms of quality. I am happy with either March 18. Do it Jermall!

    What do yall think? Should Jermall do it? The only thing that worries me that this can't happen is that GGG fights have VADA drug testing, and Jermall-JRoc had no VADA or even USADA drug testing, even though PBC had promised all their boxers would do year-round testing. I won't accuse anyone but certain physiques of certain fighters, perhaps more than one, made me raise my eyebrows. But I will admit I'm no specialist in spotting juicing or anything. This just a boxing fan's opinion. That's the one big issue I could see, Charlo going from no VADA testing to VADA testing. But I hope Charlo is clean, there is no evidence he's not, and that he fights GGG March 18!
    Naturally bigger than triple hype even though he only weighed in at 153lbs and only rehydrated to 158lbs for his fight with Jrock?

    Also, people claiming Charlo looked a whole weight class bigger than Jrock even though Jrock was 159lbs as opposed to Charlo's 158.

    What the hell are you guys smoking here? Do you even check the facts before you type?

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    • al-Xander
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      #32
      Lara, Andrade, Charlo brothers, Williams, all in the same Haymon umbrella. They're not even able to fight each other except Charlo1 vs Williams. How do you expect GGG vs one of these clowns to be made as easily as you people want it? Call me when Lara fights Andrade, Williams, Charlo 1 or 2.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Chollo Vista
        Nice spin, but Ivan Drago was never an ignorant heel.

        People didn't like Drago because of the US vs USSR feud. Plenty of Russians loved Drago.

        What you're asking Charlo to do here and given the history of blacks playing the "ignorant villain" role is completely different that what Drago did.
        I didn't say how Charlo should act Mr. Racism, you are assuming as you often seem to do. I'm saying he naturally seems like he has a above average level of douchebag in his personality, like Kovalev, & pushing it up a notch for the villainization effect of capitalizing on boxing/sports fans desire to see beef wouldn't be the dumbest move for him & his bank account. That has nothing to do with his color. I know plenty of above average douchebags of all races, colors, sexes & whatever & those type of guys.

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        • Boxing Logic
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          #34
          Originally posted by anthonydavid11
          He said he was done with 154. At middle, he can still fight all of those guys, too. Or Saunders. Now that's a fight I'd like to see right there, if Saunders has the guts to take it, which I'm really starting to question.
          Jermell is that you? Ronnie Shields? Whoever you are you sound like a total fanboy. Saunders just put on a total snoozer. GGG on the other hand is very exciting. But somehow you'd rather see Jermall fight the boring guy than the exciting guy? Only a fanboy would say something like that. It sounds like you don't think he can beat GGG, so you only want him to take easy fights he can win like Saunders, and you're even willing to make up fake excuses for why Charlo shouldn't fight GGG, like how Charlo could fight Lara or Cotto at 160, even though Lara shares Charlo's trainer and fights at 154, and even though Cotto now fights at 154 too and will never fight a bigger, faster, younger guy like Charlo with no fan base. Only GGG is willing to do that, apparently, and a few other rare fighters these days.

          If you were an objective boxing fan, you would want to see GGG-Charlo, because that's the better fight, and objective boxing fans just want to see the best fights. But since you're a Charlo fan first, before you're a boxing fan, your top priority is preventing Charlo from losing, so you would rather see boring fights that Charlo will win, than exciting fights you think he would lose, such as the GGG-Charlo fight.

          I'm just a boxing fan though, so I don't care if Charlo loses, I just want to see the best fights. None of us know if he would win or lose until they fight, so you'd think Charlo would have the self-belief to take the fight March 18 so everyone can find out.

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          • Boxing Logic
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            #35
            Originally posted by Sledgeweather17
            Naturally bigger than triple hype even though he only weighed in at 153lbs and only rehydrated to 158lbs for his fight with Jrock?

            Also, people claiming Charlo looked a whole weight class bigger than Jrock even though Jrock was 159lbs as opposed to Charlo's 158.

            What the hell are you guys smoking here? Do you even check the facts before you type?
            They did the same day weigh-in early. Obviously Charlo and JRoc were both over 160 on fight night. But that was some cute Haymon-style propaganda for sure. Wonder if they did that on purpose so people like you would have an excuse to point to why Charlo shouldn't fight GGG?

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              #36
              Wait why doesn't GGG "dare to be great" by fighting. Ward for all his belts. Ward would accept that fight tomorrow. What's with the double standards here?

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                #37
                Originally posted by JoeMan
                Lara, Andrade, Charlo brothers, Williams, all in the same Haymon umbrella. They're not even able to fight each other except Charlo1 vs Williams. How do you expect GGG vs one of these clowns to be made as easily as you people want it? Call me when Lara fights Andrade, Williams, Charlo 1 or 2.
                That's why it's so ****** to associate 3G with these Haymon fighters when his top fighters have a hard time fighting each other. Same manager, same network, same promoters, yet we don't hear people making any deal out of it.

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                • Chollo Vista
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                  like Kovalev, & pushing it up a notch for the villainization effect of capitalizing on boxing/sports fans desire to see beef wouldn't be the dumbest move for him & his bank account.
                  Why is it always about the $$$? I know you don't mind seeing a bunch of little ****** Adrien Broner's running around, but for those of us that try to distance ourselves from that non-sense, there's always someone like yourself advocating for it.

                  Again, GGG and Canelo didn't have to create silly out of the ring beef's to promote their fight and they have "THE" biggest fight in boxing on deck. So why should the young black up and coming knockout sensation, Jermall Charlo, have to do this?

                  I know why, but I'll let you tell it.
                  Last edited by Chollo Vista; 12-11-2016, 05:48 PM.

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                  • Sledgeweather17
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Boxing Logic
                    They did the same day weigh-in early. Obviously Charlo and JRoc were both over 160 on fight night. But that was some cute Haymon-style propaganda for sure. Wonder if they did that on purpose so people like you would have an excuse to point to why Charlo shouldn't fight GGG?
                    So you have proof that they were in the 160s? And you saying that the tale of the tape lied?

                    Lmao at excuse not to fight tiple G. I'm pretty sure triple G would be the one making excuses, you know, like how many has he made to duck Lara?

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                    • Robbie Barrett
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Boxing Logic
                      They did the same day weigh-in early. Obviously Charlo and JRoc were both over 160 on fight night. But that was some cute Haymon-style propaganda for sure. Wonder if they did that on purpose so people like you would have an excuse to point to why Charlo shouldn't fight GGG?
                      They do Golovkins weigh in early too he weighs 180 in the ring.

                      No i don't have proof either.

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