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  • Robbie Barrett
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    #61
    Originally posted by Boxing Logic
    You read it. I know how you roll I've seen you do it before. You read it, but whenever people post facts you can't refute, you just post gifs. I've seen you do it before man smh. You have no arguments or logic or facts. You just speak lies, then when people disprove them, you stick your fingers in your ears and go "lalalalala I can't hear you facts can't reach me lalalala."

    That's like what little kids do man. Stop being so afraid of facts.
    I barely read half your posts. Even in the other thread you asked why i didn't mention x,y,z it's because you post a lot of filler bullshit that nobody can be bothered reading. Get to the point in your posts, nobody wants to read a novel.

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    • Boxing Logic
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      #62
      Originally posted by Redd Foxx
      Lol, I hope you didn't write all that for me because I'm not about to start reading a novel written by a hateful fanboy that predictably slanders certain fighters and apologises for others. Start posting quality stuff and I'll engage with you.

      This is exactly what I'm talking about. Fans don't want to see ggg fight real challenges. If you respect the guy, you want to see him achieve. I like Golovkin and want to see him fight quality fighters. Charlo is quality.
      I literally made a forum topic saying GGG should fight Charlo March 18. If Jacobs turns down the offer, then Charlo can take the same deal instead, like Brook took Eubank Jr's deal. I'm the one that suggested that so what are you even talking about that I don't want GGG to fight quality guys? That's exactly what I want to see.

      And see this is the problem in 2016 in the U.S. This is why people voted Trump because somehow people think it's okay now to just suggest everyone who disagrees with them and is white is a racist without any proof at all. Do I predictably criticize certain fighters? Yes, I am critical of fighters who don't fight the best, who duck, who are divas, who cheat and foul in the ring, and who ruin the sport. That has nothing to do with race. I'm a big Erik Morales fan and that dude is Mexican. I'm a big Pacquiao fan and that dude beat Pacquiao, and Pacquiao is Asian. I'm a fan of JRoc and he's black. I used to be a fan of Paulie and he's Italian. I'm a fan of Thurman and he's part black I think. I'm a fan of Shawn Porter and he's black.

      Like why do you think it's wrong to criticize the fighters who ruin the sport and don't compete to be the best? I don't get it. That makes you seem bias, not me.

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      • Boxing Logic
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        #63
        Originally posted by John Locke
        Is there anyone who ISN'T bigger than GGG? What about Chocolatito?

        Anyway, Charlo should stick around at 154 for a bit longer, there's too much unfinished business down there. Andrade, Castano, Lubin, Hurd etc are all young, talented guys fighting to make a name, it would look great on Charlo's resume to beat a couple of those guys before heading up.
        Never heard of Castano, and only watched a few Lubin and Hurd fights. I think some of these guys are overrated fighting on the Haymon side of things and draining down to 154 to avoid GGG at 160. But yeah man I would love to see Charlo-Andrade. That's the fight. if he can get that win at 154 before moving up, that will be huge for his career. To really become a superstar you can't just rely on one good win, you need to go back to back with 5-10 guys, like Pacquiao did with Morales, Barrera, Marquez, Cotto, Margarito, etc etc. So if Charlo can beat Andrade too, that's a great start. The problem is Haymon fighters have been taught to believe one good win is supposed to make them the next Sugar Ray Leonard. They feel entitled like they're not supposed to take multiple good matchups in a row.

        But I agree with you. I'm not picky. Charlo can fight any of Andrade, Canelo, Lubin, GGG, even Lemieux next, and I would give him big credit.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Boxing Logic
          What Charlo should do is pull what Brook did with Eubank Jr., but do it publicly. Go on video playing up the villain/badass persona even more, and say "Yo GGG, I hear you been having trouble getting opponents. I hear Danny Jacobs has been reluctant to sign on the dotted line. Well how about you face a real champion. I'm also with Al Haymon just like Jacobs, so this is my offer. If Jacobs won't accept your offer for March 18, I am willing to take that offer instead, with the exact same terms, and fight you March 18 at 160 for your three belts."

          Jermall coming off this big knockout... THIS is how fighters were able to grow out of just being belt holders, and become real superstars, in the old days. This is how it was done rather than the 100% risk adverse bull**** so many do today.

          Jermall can really ride this momentum into stardom. He is naturally bigger than GGG so there's no reason this can't happen. And it would only serve Jermall's brand, so to speak, even more if he could upstage Jacobs, and make it look like everyone is ducking GGG, but Jermall is willing to jump in front of all those guys and take on the challenge. It would be a bad-ass power play we haven't seen in boxing since, well, Brook, but that was kind of reactive. Eubank Jr. had already messed it up, then Hearn offered it to Brook. If Charlo could actually go call GGG out ahead of time, and not a generic bs callout like Lara did but a real one where he says he will take the Jacobs offer for the Jacobs date right away, that would be a power play in boxing by someone truly aiming for stardom that we haven't seen in awhile.

          And to me GGG-Jermall Charlo is interchangeable with GGG-Jacobs in terms of quality. I am happy with either March 18. Do it Jermall!

          What do yall think? Should Jermall do it? The only thing that worries me that this can't happen is that GGG fights have VADA drug testing, and Jermall-JRoc had no VADA or even USADA drug testing, even though PBC had promised all their boxers would do year-round testing. I won't accuse anyone but certain physiques of certain fighters, perhaps more than one, made me raise my eyebrows. But I will admit I'm no specialist in spotting juicing or anything. This just a boxing fan's opinion. That's the one big issue I could see, Charlo going from no VADA testing to VADA testing. But I hope Charlo is clean, there is no evidence he's not, and that he fights GGG March 18!
          i want to like the charlo twins but their unimaginative first names make it difficult.

          one of them should have been named carlos.

          carlos charlo has the ring of a bad ass fighter....

          their first names are ******. i dont know if i can like them.... i dont know if they can be mainstream.....

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          • g27region
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            #65
            Originally posted by Chollo Vista
            People didn't like Drago because of the US vs USSR feud. Plenty of Russians loved Drago.
            A bunch of Cold Ward stereotypes, generalizing millions of people, depicting them as emotionless robots and sociopaths with some Scandinavian guy pretending, what's not to love about it? Ha ha

            Now I ask myself why I'm not trying to express opinions of Americans or other groups of people I'm not related to. If some people doing that here, then I have every right for that **** as well
            Last edited by g27region; 12-12-2016, 12:18 PM.

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            • al-Xander
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              #66
              It's hard to become a star if you are a Haymon fighter. It's been years since Schaefer handed all of the GBP fighters to Haymon and none of them are PPV materials. They always have to beg for super fights from the other side of the fence. They can't make it on their own and within PBC/Showtime premises.

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              • sicko
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                #67
                Jermall Charlo is only 26 years old, he doesn't have the "CHASE" anybody now after that win, instead you flip that into money you destroyed the guy everybody said you're ducking so we the fans really can say nothing to the guy until his next mandatory which will be Tony Harrison if Jermall stays at 154 and hold on to that IBF Strap! So I say head back to Texas and trying to build a even bigger following in your backyard taking on a Decent opponent. Not sure which Division he will fight in though, if he not going to fight his brother or Lara at 154 then move up. If Jacobs vs GGG doesn't happen then I would love to see Jacobs vs Jermall Charlo that is another way he can continue to build momentum

                WHY NOT Canelo vs Charlo? Why are people trying to skip over that when both are World Champions at 154 why not unify. What is the excuse for that NOT to happen, it would do GREAT in Texas with Canelo fighting a fighter FROM Texas to go along with his Following in Texas. Guarantee that fight does better than Liam Smith Fight!

                Charlo at 26 years old, his career is moving at the perfect pace, Fought Austin Trout and J Rock this year what more can you ask of him really? No reason why the Canelo fight shouldn't be made for May 2017! What other options does Canelo have at 154 and even if he is moving up well so is Charlo so it is ZERO EXCUSES!

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                • Mr. Objectivity
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Kigali
                  Ward owns you boy.

                  Every thread you find a way to mention his name.
                  You lying yet again, band wagon fan

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                  • The Comic DON
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                    #69
                    Read through the thread and you can tell these dudes aren't confident in Charlo beating Golovkin. Not one of them has posted straight out Charlo beat Golovkin.

                    It's all "why does Charlo have to move up"? Even though he already said last week Williams was his last fight at 154.

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                    • The Comic DON
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by sicko
                      Jermall Charlo is only 26 years old, he doesn't have the "CHASE" anybody now after that win, instead you flip that into money you destroyed the guy everybody said you're ducking so we the fans really can say nothing to the guy until his next mandatory which will be Tony Harrison if Jermall stays at 154 and hold on to that IBF Strap! So I say head back to Texas and trying to build a even bigger following in your backyard taking on a Decent opponent. Not sure which Division he will fight in though, if he not going to fight his brother or Lara at 154 then move up. If Jacobs vs GGG doesn't happen then I would love to see Jacobs vs Jermall Charlo that is another way he can continue to build momentum

                      WHY NOT Canelo vs Charlo? Why are people trying to skip over that when both are World Champions at 154 why not unify. What is the excuse for that NOT to happen, it would do GREAT in Texas with Canelo fighting a fighter FROM Texas to go along with his Following in Texas. Guarantee that fight does better than Liam Smith Fight!

                      Charlo at 26 years old, his career is moving at the perfect pace, Fought Austin Trout and J Rock this year what more can you ask of him really? No reason why the Canelo fight shouldn't be made for May 2017! What other options does Canelo have at 154 and even if he is moving up well so is Charlo so it is ZERO EXCUSES!
                      So if Golovkin fight Canelo first and beats him would you be calling for Charlo to face Golovkin in a superfight.

                      It sounds to me you're a fan of Charlo (correct me if I'm wrong) and want he to face Canelo because you feel that he'll win. But don't want him to face Golovkin until his body is ready it because you that he loses.

                      I personally believe if he's going to move up to 160 (his words not mines) he should face the best there and as soon as possible. Age isn't an excuse to skip out on dangerous fights.

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