Ward certainly isn't P4P No. 1

[soul_survivor]

Honestly the discussion is mute, when you have 90% or more of the genuine boxing publications scoring the fight for Kovalev and almost 99% of fans doing the same, I think the argument ends.

[mlac]

I never thought he was anything special

Neither.

Does he have skill? absolutely.
Is he defensively gifted? definitely

Is he a multifaceted p4p fighter? definitely not IMO

He reminds me Wlad in a way that he has managed to get to the top of the sport by crafting a specific style of potshotting jab's and clinching and spoiling.

the major difference of course is Wlad has elite power and ward is totally feather fisted.

[NEETzsche]

he looked like a diminished fighter to me. i think he's in that interim period just before a fighter can truly be called past-it, like mayweather circa 2013 and hopkins circa 2011

[soul_survivor]

Neither.

Does he have skill? absolutely.
Is he defensively gifted? definitely

Is he a multifaceted p4p fighter? definitely not IMO

He reminds me Wlad in a way that he has managed to get to the top of the sport by crafting a specific style of potshotting jab's and clinching and spoiling.

the major difference of course is Wlad has elite power and ward is totally feather fisted.

I've said that for years now, I said it before the fight in fact. I simply had Ward as a possible winner because I did not imagine Kovalev would be stronger on the inside.

I had just about everyone telling me Ward was multi-faceted, could move like Leonard, punch like Jones etc etc etc

Now all of you are coming out and saying what I've said all along.

[mlac]

I've said that for years now, I said it before the fight in fact. I simply had Ward as a possible winner because I did not imagine Kovalev would be stronger on the inside.

I had just about everyone telling me Ward was multi-faceted, could move like Leonard, punch like Jones etc etc etc

Now all of you are coming out and saying what I've said all along.

Lol, ive said for year's that i never thought highly of him, you don't need to go looking for internet brownie points mate

[soul_survivor]

he looked like a diminished fighter to me. i think he's in that interim period just before a fighter can truly be called past-it, like mayweather circa 2013 and hopkins circa 2011

oh gtfoh with that bs

by the time the Kovalev fight happened, Hopkins was either ranked 2 or 3 in the entire LHW and held 2 of the 4 major world titles. That's absolute bull**** and people like you are a disgrace to boxing.

And people talking about Ward being diminished like he has ever shown anything beyond a good inside game and the odd spurt of movement. It took him 9 rounds to beat up a middleweight journeyman last year.

[soul_survivor]

Lol, ive said for year's that i never thought highly of him, you don't need to go looking for internet brownie points mate

I'm just saying it how it is

Your dislike for Ward is probably due to non boxing reasons, mine is purely based on boxing fact.

[mlac]

I'm just saying it how it is

Your dislike for Ward is probably due to non boxing reasons, mine is purely based on boxing fact.

not sure if srs.

[IronDanHamza]

not sure if srs.

Oh he's srs alright.

[soul_survivor]

not sure if srs.

I seen you hating on some fighters because of nefarious reasons, thats all I'm saying.

But in this round, you are right.

Just take it and move on kid.