Ward certainly isn't P4P No. 1

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  • Jim Tom
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    #81
    Kovalev is a good fighter and it was never going to be easy fighting him. He judges distance, has a very good jab and a good boxing brain not even mentioning the power. Ward is definitely very good, I'm not sure about being pound for pound best, amybe at 168lbs but definitely not as a light heavyweight. They have to fight Adonis Stephenson to see how they react to his power and style. In as good as Ward is, truth is, he made his name fighting stiffs from Europe.

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    • Jsmooth9876
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      #82
      Let's be honest, the former 2 best P4P guys made their way there fighting stiffs and over the hill big names ... Ward and Kovalev just fought their equals, top class prime elite fighters . Honestly they both should be #1 and 2 now and the others should drop down lower

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      • NYC8224
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        #83
        Originally posted by therealpugilist
        GGG wouldnt be competitive with kov or ward
        I agree. One thing i noticed is Kovalev not cutting off the ring, which GGG is a master at. Not sure if it makes a difference or not but GGG still gets taken to school.

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        • soul_survivor
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          #84
          Originally posted by Jsmooth9876
          Let's be honest, the former 2 best P4P guys made their way there fighting stiffs and over the hill big names ... Ward and Kovalev just fought their equals, top class prime elite fighters . Honestly they both should be #1 and 2 now and the others should drop down lower
          That's a load of bollocks, especially when you speak of Pacquiao.

          People like you need to stop diverting or saying rubbish like "both deserve credit for making this fight".

          First of, Kovalev is the best light heavy on the planet and has been since unifying most of the division. Ward is a guy who has one top opponent in almost 5 years.

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          • soul_survivor
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            #85
            Originally posted by NYC8224
            I agree. One thing i noticed is Kovalev not cutting off the ring, which GGG is a master at. Not sure if it makes a difference or not but GGG still gets taken to school.
            GGG is too small for light heavyweight.

            If they make a catchweight of 164...which is very unlikely now considering Ward isn't going back down to smw just yet, then GGG can maybe match them with his skill but anything more than that and he gets stopped by Kovalev and smothered by Ward.

            But GGG isn't part of the discussion for this anyway.

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            • therealpugilist
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              #86
              Originally posted by NYC8224
              I agree. One thing i noticed is Kovalev not cutting off the ring, which GGG is a master at. Not sure if it makes a difference or not but GGG still gets taken to school.
              ggg also doesnt do much work inside, he would get mugged by ward and jab and right hand to death by kov

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              • Stuntman Mike
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                #87
                Originally posted by soul_survivor
                What happened to all this talk of Ward being p4p no. 1? lol

                Kovalev just showed that Ward isn't the type of versatile fighter he was being compared to. I won't even mention those other fighters name because that's a disgrace.

                Ward is a 2 trick poney. Clinch and fight on the inside, then jab on the outside. Kovalev out did him in both.

                I actually said something on BA or whatever forum I was on at the time, 4 years ago after the Dawson fight, that if Ward fights someone who is healthy and can match him for size and strength he loses. That's what we saw last night.

                I'm gonna put my hand up and say I didn't think Kovalev would be as strong but he was and once he took that from Ward, what did he show exactly? He showed Chilemba levels of defense, which is good but nothing special.

                He showed the will of a p4p champion tbh ,i had the fight kovalev,fights can be close and nothing will be perfect like most mayweather fights this was two exceptional fighters and the winner whether cloae deserves p4p status

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                • LoadedWraps
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
                  No. Lists like yours and other posters don't matter because nobody thinks "lets google that ****** Loadedwraps P4P list", nobody cares what you think.

                  If I am a ****** by boxing standards your much lower bud.

                  Have you literally ever held your own opinion and defended it in here?

                  You embrace the popular opinion which is the mark of a sheep and casual.

                  the only reason no one is googling my list is because i'm not famous. My list holds more weight than yours though and most on here.

                  Hilarious how you are still riding this "only lists that I agree with matter" wave though.

                  Will be fun to see you squirm if any list out there "googleable" contradicts what you want to believe.

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                  • Stuntman Mike
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                    #89
                    Being pound for pound means you qin fights no matter what,not that youre a carbon copy of mayweather,other fighters do get hit but have other things that mayweather doesnt also

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                    • Robbie Barrett
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by LoadedWraps

                      If I am a ****** by boxing standards your much lower bud.

                      Have you literally ever held your own opinion and defended it in here?

                      You embrace the popular opinion which is the mark of a sheep and casual.

                      the only reason no one is googling my list is because i'm not famous. My list holds more weight than yours though and most on here.

                      Hilarious how you are still riding this "only lists that I agree with matter" wave though.

                      Will be fun to see you squirm if any list out there "googleable" contradicts what you want to believe.

                      How did you you come to "only lists i agree with matter", only lists that large amounts of people follow matter and yours isn't one of them. Sorry to hurt your little feeling but nobody gives a fuck what you or i think. "My list holds more weight than yours and most on here." I doubt even your forum friends give a fuck about your list, nice that you have such an high opinion of yourself though.

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