Ward certainly isn't P4P No. 1

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  • therealpugilist
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    #71
    Originally posted by soul_survivor
    Fischer who is the official scorer of The Ring had it 117-111 Kovalev. That's not close.

    So tell me how it would be justified for this publication, the most famous and revered in the sport, to have Ward top of his p4p list?

    The top UK boxing publication had it 115-112 for Kovalev, I think, might have been a slightly different score, I can't remember. If they were to have Ward number one, what would you think of their list?

    Please do not avoid the question second time.
    Fischer has tanked since he got with the ring...he was better with maxboxing...his style and fighter preferences werent so obvious

    now he is just anon stop boxing poster, with media credentials...he gives his opinion more than factual information

    anyone calling this fight a robbery, or 116-112 either guys way need to evaluate how to score fights

    this fight was no worse than a 1-2 point loss to either guy...a draw would have been acceptable

    I scored it 114-113 the first time for ward....115-112 for ward and a draw

    sorry no robbery, just a bunch of butthurt pom pom carriers

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    • therealpugilist
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      #72
      Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
      Abraham/Kessler/Froch are better than anyone on Golovkins resume, Kovalev is a top P4P fighter and it was a close fight. Ward and Kovalev have proven they belong at the top of the sport. Golovkin hasn't yet you have him there.
      ^^^^kmsl...this dude was talking bout " ward aint fought nobody in 5 years"

      well GGG has made a career off of hype and a thin resume...hasnt fought an elite fighter his entire career and is older than kov and ward with more fights....pretty pathetic

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      • deanrw
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        #73
        After watching them fight Saturday, I found both guys looked sloppy. I am not into the P4P stuff, but if you were looking for the best fighter in the world, he was not in the ring that night.

        Both guys look like they are fading, and fading fast.

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        • Dean_Razorback
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          #74
          Originally posted by _original_
          I agree, I saw Kovalev as the superior fighter. Ward looked limited, no right hand, no fluid combos, and his inside game is overrated and non effective if the other guy won't play to his dirty tactics. He had no answers from the outside and kept eating jabs and right hands. Ward should never compared to Mayweather or even Hopkins again, that is an insult to those complete fighters.
          the bolded. ward wasn't gonna beat kovalev with just one hand. why nobody says something about this, all the guys that are saying how he "adjusted" i haven't read none of those guys talk about this

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          • NaijaD
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            #75
            Love Ward as a boxer and a person but he's not P4P number 1.... you can have him there if you want but you'll probably be in the minority. That performance was not the makings of the worlds best fighter.

            In a fight like this you want a clear and undeniable winner which we didn't get and while I had him winning I was disappointed that he couldn't really make an impact with pure boxing, I know Kovalev is a better boxer than given credit but he's no Mayweather or Rigondeaux and Ward couldn't really land consistently upstairs atall. Basically he didn't separate himself from Kovalev and for me that's what a fighter should do to knock someone else from the P4P spot so Gonzalez keeps his spot for me.

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            • Madison Boxing
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              #76
              Originally posted by NYC8224
              I defended bigdramashow before but he is acting like a **** now. Ward win, accept it and shut the ****up
              just saying my piece, i didnt think ward won and theres no way hes going top of my pound for pound list after it. I thought it was close but clear to kovalev,im not going to keep going on about it though cause ive got it off my chest and theres a great fight this weekend to look forward to.

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              • NYC8224
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                #77
                Originally posted by bigdramashow
                just saying my piece, i didnt think ward won and theres no way hes going top of my pound for pound list after it. I thought it was close but clear to kovalev,im not going to keep going on about it though cause ive got it off my chest and theres a great fight this weekend to look forward to.
                But Ward won, who cares how he did it? And after this fight, i think he beats GGG

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                • therealpugilist
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by NYC8224
                  But Ward won, who cares how he did it? And after this fight, i think he beats GGG
                  GGG wouldnt be competitive with kov or ward

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                  • NaijaD
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by soul_survivor
                    Honestly the discussion is mute, when you have 90% or more of the genuine boxing publications scoring the fight for Kovalev and almost 99% of fans doing the same, I think the argument ends.
                    Where are you getting those numbers from? And are people only genuine when they agree with you??

                    I completely agree with you that Ward is not P4P number 1 but the rest of your posts are just you being a tool in all honesty.

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                    • Kagami Taiga
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                      #80
                      Well it's between him and Kovalev. So let's say 1a and 1b. I think those two are without a doubt the best fighters in the world. And they proved that to anyone with a brain for boxing.
                      Last edited by Kagami Taiga; 11-21-2016, 01:11 PM.

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