The biggest schooling a prime Top 3 P4P received?

[IronDanHamza]

ok. i made a thread keeping track of the p4p kings so that posters on this site can just refer to it instead of having to scour the internet for historical p4p rankings. i think i got it historically covered from as early as the mid 90s.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=689519

i take that back, i got it covered starting from 1989. just havent updated the most recent years.

so ring magazine's official p4p top 10 list started 89? i thought it was around mid 80s...

Correct. 89.

Between 1980-89 KO Magazine had a P4P list people followed.

[IronDanHamza]

I think Mayweather Canelo should be on the list. I feel like there is a weird phenomena around Floyd. Any other time in history a champion in his early 20s would be considered prime but not when Mayweather fights them lol. Benitiez was 21 when he faced Leonard, Hearns was 22, Tyson was 22 when he beat Spinks, Ali was 22 when he beat Liston and list goes on and on. But Mayweather beats 22/23 year old Canelo and that doesn't count?

It definitely counts to anyone that's not holding a bias.

But there's no way Canelo was Top 3 P4P.

Corrales would be the best example for Floyd, who was #5 P4P.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Voted other..


Roy jones vs tarver 2


The absolute worst thing I have ever seen happen to a top p4p guy.. Can't recall another time when someone of Roy's caliber got iced in 2.

And Tarver wasn't that good.. Besides buster, everyone else on the poll fought a legit ATG

[IronDanHamza]

I dont see how trinidad isnt considered at his prime weight at middleweight yet guys like chavez at welterweight and donaire at super bantamweight are?

That's a good point.

[IronDanHamza]

Voted other..


Roy jones vs tarver 2


The absolute worst thing I have ever seen happen to a top p4p guy.. Can't recall another time when someone of Roy's caliber got iced in 2.

And Tarver wasn't that good.. Besides buster, everyone else on the poll fought a legit ATG

Roy wasn't prime though.

[IronDanHamza]

Voted other with Hopkins - Pavlik in mind. He took his soul that night.

But Pavlik wasn't prime at 170 nor was he P4P Top 3.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Roy wasn't prime though.

He was pretty close, still considered #1 or 1A. Probably at the same stage as pernell and Chavez


If not roy, then I gotta say tyson.. He got beat up and knocked out by a journeymen.

Everyone else at least went to decision and were facing a top p4p guy

[IMDAZED]

He was pretty close, still considered #1 or 1A. Probably at the same stage as pernell and Chavez


If not roy, then I gotta say tyson.. He got beat up and knocked out by a journeymen.

Everyone else at least went to decision and were facing a top p4p guy

Definitely nowhere near prime. Was a couple years removed from it, maybe more. Before the KO he labored to a hard majority points win over Tarver. Was still rated p4p (Like Whitaker before Oscar) but he was not the same fighter and it showed.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Definitely nowhere near prime. Was a couple years removed from it, maybe more. Before the KO he labored to a hard majority points win over Tarver. Was still rated p4p (Like Whitaker before Oscar) but he was not the same fighter and it showed.

I will never believe roy was shot heading into the Tarver fights..

He was coming off one of his greatest performances vs ruiz, and hey we was probably alittle drained heading into tarver 1, but the rematch he was fine. He just got caught and iced by a good puncher who had his number.

Regardless, I do agree that it was Roy's peak, but he was still amazing and have been on a streak destroying guys like woods, gonazalez, and ruiz before he ran into tarver..
If you're going to use chavez-pernell, I don't see why you can't use roy

[Skip Bayless]

from that list chavez. pernell was just on a whole different level that night