The biggest schooling a prime Top 3 P4P received?

[rr00676]

old school....Ali-Liston

[Damn Wicked]

http://www.espn.com/sports/boxing/co...ist=rafael_dan
http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Th...r_Pound--2000s

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-231991.html

Take you L and move on.

That's strong evidence the P4P rankings are complete nonsense.
It was widely believed that Mosely was well past his prime by that time.

[Damn Wicked]

Pacquaio-Barrera
Douglas-Tyson
......Maybe Ali-Foreman

[LoadedWraps]

I voted for Tyson's loss to Douglas, because not only is it a major loss in his prime, but also a major upset.

If Ward beats Kovalev or vica versa, it's a great win for either but not an upset no matter who wins.

Duran/SRL is missing from this poll, as someone already mentioned.

Also, I disagree with you saying JMM wasn't prime when Floyd beat him Irondamhanza. And please don't point at age as a rebuttal, age doesn't tell you when a fighter is in his prime at all, and not all fighters enter/leave their prime around the same time in their careers either. JMM didn't lose a beat until his second to last Manny fight IMO. I would have to see overwhelming evidence otherwise, evidence in previous fights and training camps.

[Robbie Barrett]

That's strong evidence the P4P rankings are complete nonsense.
It was widely believed that Mosely was well past his prime by that time.

It was widely believed he was one of the 3 best fighters in the world even if he was past prime. Mayweather has been past prime the last 5 years but he was still P4P #1. P4P is opinion, if it's nonsense then every you think is nonsense also.

[craigus1990]

Not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet... because I cba to read 11 pages... especially with the nature of boxingscene... most of that will be trolling and name calling anyway xD
But what about Don Curry getting schooled by Honeyghan? Curry was undefeated and at the peak of his powers and would have been considered a top 3 P4P fighter by most (I think)....?

[Chuckguy]

With Kovalev and Ward in the horizon, arguably the two P4P best fighters in the world, both arguably in their primes, it made me wonder how many times has a prime Top 2-3 been taken to school.

We have James Toney P4P #2 getting utterly embarrassed by Roy Jones.

Julio Cesar Chavez P4P #1 schooled by Whitaker. Could argue Chavez wasn't prime.

Mike Tyson P4P #1 beaten up and stopped by Douglas.

Nonito Donaire P4P #3 schooled by Rigondeaux.

Shane Mosley P4P #1 dropped and outboxed by Forrest. Wouldn't call that a schooling myself.

Any other candidates? What was the worst?

Kovalev or Ward may be amongst the list soon who knows.

I would say either jones or Rigo

[IronDanHamza]

He was pretty close, still considered #1 or 1A. Probably at the same stage as pernell and Chavez


If not roy, then I gotta say tyson.. He got beat up and knocked out by a journeymen.

Everyone else at least went to decision and were facing a top p4p guy

He was no where near close.

Regardless it doesn't matter how close he was to his prime he definitely wasn't prime.

[IronDanHamza]

Not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet... because I cba to read 11 pages... especially with the nature of boxingscene... most of that will be trolling and name calling anyway xD
But what about Don Curry getting schooled by Honeyghan? Curry was undefeated and at the peak of his powers and would have been considered a top 3 P4P fighter by most (I think)....?

Awesome example.

Yes you're right, Curry was top 3 P4P when Honeyghan beat him up.

Another one that completely slipped my mind.

There's quite a few examples of this.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

He was no where near close.

Regardless it doesn't matter how close he was to his prime he definitely wasn't prime.

I don't see how you can use chavez but not roy jones...

Roy was still considered the best fighter in the world at the time, and everybody thought he would "montel" tarver in the rematch..

Half the dudes on your own poll were past it..

Donaire,,, what's he done since

Chavez,,

Mosely was never the same after forrest, afterwards basically lost every big fight besides margarito


Tyson and toney are the only guys that were actually at their peak