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  • bluebeam
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    #101
    Originally posted by JQside
    Khan vs Canelo. Why do you think Haymon allowed Khan to fight on HBO? Lara says he can fight anywhere. Jacobs says the same thing.

    Khan, jacobs and lara don't have contracts with showtime. They can fight anywhere. Golovkin has a hbo contract he can't fight no where except hbo.

    See the difference.

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    • Vinnykin
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      #102
      Originally posted by LacedUp
      According to Hearn, Eubank was offered 80-20 split (presumably UK revenue not america) and Brook got the EXACT same deal.

      If this is true, then Brook is set for a HUGE payday.

      Check it out - Start at 13:40

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      Yeah the promoter gets 20% which is the standard matchroom deal. This will be the U.K and European Sky Sports PPV only. If it does 400k buys it works out around £6.8 million, 80% of that.

      We know Froch got £8 million for the Groves fight on the same deal. Brook could easily do £4 million if the PPV does well

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      • NorvernRob
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        #103
        Originally posted by Vinnykin
        Yeah the promoter gets 20% which is the standard matchroom deal. This will be the U.K and European Sky Sports PPV only. If it does 400k buys it works out around £6.8 million, 80% of that.

        We know Froch got £8 million for the Groves fight on the same deal. Brook could easily do £4 million if the PPV does well

        It's 80% of total profit from the entire event that Brook gets, same deal Froch and Joshua have had. Hearn takes the other 20%. It's not just based on PPV buys though obviously that can push the purse right up.

        As Hearn kept saying, he tells the fighters 'it's your show' - the more money they generate for the entire event the more they earn. Only the top guys get this deal because they're the ones that generate all the profitable nights.

        Interesting that he says Joshua always insists on a good undercard, it costs more money in purses but should generate more in buys hence why he says Joshua is smart.

        Hearn costs everything for the event, then goes through it with the fighters. Eubank Sr wanted to control everything, from the cost of tickets to what the undercard fighters get paid, to the PPV cut.

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          #104
          Originally posted by NorvernRob
          It's 80% of total profit from the entire event that Brook gets, same deal Froch and Joshua have had. Hearn takes the other 20%. It's not just based on PPV buys though obviously that can push the purse right up.

          As Hearn kept saying, he tells the fighters 'it's your show' - the more money they generate for the entire event the more they earn. Only the top guys get this deal because they're the ones that generate all the profitable nights.

          Interesting that he says Joshua always insists on a good undercard, it costs more money in purses but should generate more in buys hence why he says Joshua is smart.

          Hearn costs everything for the event, then goes through it with the fighters. Eubank Sr wanted to control everything, from the cost of tickets to what the undercard fighters get paid, to the PPV cut.
          In that interview he only said it was an 80-20 split for the PPV money. He doesn't mention TV rights for other country's or what GGG's side are taking from ticket sales, sponsorships etc which could be any deal and one which Hearn would not be allowed to disclose as it's not his client.

          What I took from this was that Brook gets the 80% of the Sky Sports PPV just like the others. Nothing else was discussed regarding what GGG is entitled to and there is no way Brook gets 80% of the entire event and Hearn 20%.....what would GGG get?

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          • Jewish-Reptile
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            #105
            Hearn is sacrificing Brook to build Callum Smith versus Golovkin, then Smith is going to knock Golovkin out cold and he'll have his very own superstar just before the Joshua train rolls to a halt versus Parker.

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              #106
              Originally posted by LacedUp
              No he definitely will not. He might have a better resume right now, but Canelo is not a great fighter. He's very good, not great. GGG is a bonafide great fighter, he's more or less undisputed MW champion, Canelo has not been undisputed anything in his career. If his rivals would actually step in the ring with him his resume would smoke Canelo's.

              I ask again, can you provide me with proof that Canelo made an offer to GGG?

              there's absolutely no grounds to say that GGG has swerved a fight with Canelo. That's absolute horsecrap.

              H2H is not debatable. Especially after Canelo ducked him.

              Late '17 though. All agreed.



              Yes i'm sure. Last time Khan fought in the UK the arena was half empty. He hasn't been on PPV in half a decade, has been forced to fight on primetime and boxnation because Sky weren't interested in his fights, not even the Canelo fights.

              According to Hearn, Brook does the second best ratings on Sky out of all of his fighters. Better than Eubank as he says in this interview. Start at 40:

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              Some of Khan's fights doesn't even get picked up by UK TV like the Algieri fight. Brook's fights get shown on Showtime & on Sky and he has headlined a PPV event recently.

              That has nothing to do with what Hearn makes. Hearn might pay Brook more than what he gets in. Irrelevant to how many people watches his fights, which, obviously is in Brook's favour in the UK.

              FCUK OFF CLOWN !!

              How the fk would you know ? LMAOOOOOOOOO

              Who did he beat..... GIVE ME A NAME !!

              He is not great, because YOU say so ROFL

              where do you guys get this ****.


              who you beat, with consideration given to when/how.

              Canelo has a better resume, and a much better upside..... the rest of that post is just your opinion.... and yea, fk your worthless opinion..... that thing is worth the same as my opinion, fk all.

              And tell me what word you are struggling with her.....

              " I will fight you at 155 tomorrow "

              They entered into official negotiation TWICE..... honestly ****, stop being a fkn moron you utter tool...... what do you think they do during a negotiation?

              The " but I didn't see the offer", is the lowest weakest lame cop-out that the fanboys could resort to.

              I can't stand you dishonest lying ****s.

              Son, stop blaming Canelo because Golovkin lied to you.....


              Loeffler said that Golovkin would have no problem fighting at a catchweight against Alvarez, who fought Lara in a 155-pound bout.

              “We’ve always said that if there is a compelling fight, Gennady would move up or down, we’ve talked about moving up to 168 for Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. because that would be a pay-per-view fight and if it’s Canelo, then I’m sure that we could work out a catchweight if he wanted to work out a catchweight and if it’s in his best interest. So that would certainly be a pay-per-view fight,” said Loeffler.

              “There wouldn’t be any issues for us to come down to fight Canelo. There would still be a title on the line for Gennady because he would be fighting under 160, so he would be able to defend the titles at 156 or whatever you have the weight be. But Gennady would be willing to come down in weight to fight Canelo. I wouldn’t say it would be at 154 but certainly, given that Canelo fought his last fight at 155, then you could say that Gennady would certainly be willing to come down in weight to make the Canelo fight.”

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              • Raonic
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                #107
                Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                Brook is getting 80%, so what money is Golovkin getting paid ?

                And since when has Brook been considered a lucrative opponent ?

                Aren't you stretching things a little by insinuating that Brook is a money-fight for Golovkin?

                Why on earth did GGG select Brook ?
                GGG probably getting a career payday for this fight or something close to it.

                And Brook is easily one of the most lucrative opponents that has been willing to fight GGG, so not stretching things at all.

                GGG was offered to fight Brook after being rejected by Canelo, BJS, and CE Jr. What's he supposed to do? Reject that?

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                • LacedUp
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                  FCUK OFF CLOWN !!

                  How the fk would you know ? LMAOOOOOOOOO

                  Who did he beat..... GIVE ME A NAME !!

                  He is not great, because YOU say so ROFL

                  where do you guys get this ****.

                  You seem to have some intense insecurities when it comes to golovkin. I feel sorry for you.

                  Everything is going to be A ok. I love you. I love you like you're my biatch. Come sit on my lap.

                  who you beat, with consideration given to when/how.

                  Canelo has a better resume, and a much better upside..... the rest of that post is just your opinion.... and yea, fk your worthless opinion..... that thing is worth the same as my opinion, fk all.

                  And tell me what word you are struggling with her.....

                  " I will fight you at 155 tomorrow "

                  They entered into official negotiation TWICE..... honestly ****, stop being a fkn moron you utter tool...... what do you think they do during a negotiation?

                  The " but I didn't see the offer", is the lowest weakest lame cop-out that the fanboys could resort to.

                  I can't stand you dishonest lying ****s.

                  Son, stop blaming Canelo because Golovkin lied to you.....


                  Loeffler said that Golovkin would have no problem fighting at a catchweight against Alvarez, who fought Lara in a 155-pound bout.

                  “We’ve always said that if there is a compelling fight, Gennady would move up or down, we’ve talked about moving up to 168 for Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. because that would be a pay-per-view fight and if it’s Canelo, then I’m sure that we could work out a catchweight if he wanted to work out a catchweight and if it’s in his best interest. So that would certainly be a pay-per-view fight,” said Loeffler.

                  “There wouldn’t be any issues for us to come down to fight Canelo. There would still be a title on the line for Gennady because he would be fighting under 160, so he would be able to defend the titles at 156 or whatever you have the weight be. But Gennady would be willing to come down in weight to fight Canelo. I wouldn’t say it would be at 154 but certainly, given that Canelo fought his last fight at 155, then you could say that Gennady would certainly be willing to come down in weight to make the Canelo fight.”
                  Where is the offer? I'm waiting.

                  I see pages of bs that goes all the way around what the question actually is:

                  Did Canelo ever offer GGG a fight? At 155, 160 or 135? No he didn't,

                  Anything else you say is public propaganda from both sides. Doesn't mean *** all.

                  Canelo has already been exposed multiple times in his career, it's obvious he doesn't want GGG.

                  Giving up the belt to make the fight doe
                  Last edited by LacedUp; 07-12-2016, 08:40 PM.

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                  • kafkod
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by JQside
                    Jacobs and Lara claim they both want GG. Jacobs want $3-5 million. From where? From HBO? From K2? Hearn didn't have to wait for K2/HBO's offer. He made the offer. PBC/SHO can do the same thing if they wanted to.

                    I can't address your concern about Lara/Jacobs' inability to draw crowds. That's somebody else's concern. I'm just dispelling this myth that offers can only come from one source.
                    Originally posted by bluebeam
                    Showtime can't air golovkin fights without hbo allowing it. And hbo wouldn't allow the fighter that they promote the most to fight on showtime.

                    When has a hbo contracted fighter ever fought on showtime while under contract with hbo?

                    the answer is never, so what the hell are you talking about?
                    Who screens a fight is one thing. Who promotes it is something else. GGG vs Jacobs or Lara would have to screened on HBO in the States, but there's nothing, so far as I know, to prevent Haymon/DiBella from sending Loeffler an offer and working with him to promote it.
                    Last edited by kafkod; 07-12-2016, 09:19 PM.

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                    • kafkod
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Paulie Walnuts
                      The casuals don't know who the **** Golovkin is. They buy fights to see the British fighter not the foreign one. It's more about the event than the fighters for the casuals. You're probably one of the ******s that said Golovkin-Lemieux would sell 500k.
                      If the British fighter is called Haye, Froch or Joshua, yes. Eubank Jnr was paid £50k for his last fight, he was going to make $3/4 million for fighting Golovkin.

                      Where do you think the extra $3 million was going to come from ... Eddie Hearn's back pocket?

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