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  • aboutfkntime
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    #91
    Originally posted by Raonic
    If true, not sure how you can blame GGG/Brook from happening. GGG wanted CE Jr and priced himself out. Brook is obviously going to accept 80% and GGG isn't going to back out when he's getting paid money.

    Brook is getting 80%, so what money is Golovkin getting paid ?

    And since when has Brook been considered a lucrative opponent ?

    Aren't you stretching things a little by insinuating that Brook is a money-fight for Golovkin?

    Why on earth did GGG select Brook ?

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      #92
      Originally posted by LacedUp
      What world? India and Pakistan Good luck with that. Just about the only place Amir Khan is known these days.

      Yeah he fought Canelo and did similar numbers to Lara. Bravo... (slow clap).

      trying to pass off Canelo as better than GGG Only a Khan fan would do that.

      Historically, Canelo will be held in higher regard than Golovkin, no question.

      Oh, and not a huge Khan fan btw.

      Canelo is a multi-division champion who has beaten a number of opponents who were of a higher caliber then any of Golovkin's victims, and some were world-class.

      higher caliber = held in greater regard within their respective divisions

      Head-to-head it is debatable, but not on paper..... Canelo ranks higher, and he is not a middleweight (yet).

      who, with consideration given to when/how, is the only criteria

      Golovkin will be penalised for the poor state of the current middleweight division, but he certainly has not helped his cause by passing on top fights, including with Canelo himself.

      Golovkin still has time, but not many opportunities on the horizon..... whereas Canelo has LOTS of time, and will have more big opportunities.

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        #93
        Originally posted by LacedUp
        Brook is known all over the UK and his fights does far better than Khan's in the UK. Now he's making headline news on USA today, ESPN, CBS, Mexico everywhere.

        Khan is known for ducking Brook and getting knocked out everytime he fights. That's it. You ask people on the street who Khan is? They say: Isn't that that weird, skinny baby-giraffe, bambi on ice look-a-like?


        He's basically a bum by this stage. People would call up the Police from the O2 if Brook ever decided to throw Khan that bone, shouting: "Come quick, stop this abuse".

        you sure..... ?


        because 2 weeks ago Hearn did a interview where he stated and i quote

        "I haven't made any money from a Kell Brook show"....

        let that marinate for a second.

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          #94
          Originally posted by Herr Schmeling
          And still Bute made more money than Froch, Dumbo...
          If you think Bute was the draw you're a ******. Froch was a mandatory, the champion usually earns more in a mandatory fight. Sometimes fighters have to give opponents more than they deserve to get them in the ring, that doesn't make them the a-side.

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            #95
            Originally posted by LacedUp
            According to Hearn, Eubank was offered 80-20 split (presumably UK revenue not america) and Brook got the EXACT same deal.

            If this is true, then Brook is set for a HUGE payday.

            Check it out - Start at 13:40

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            I think he is talking about the matchroom percentages. The model they use is that matchroom would take 20% of whatever the fight earns for Jr...

            Its not ggg-jr split.

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              #96
              Originally posted by Paulie Walnuts
              If you think Bute was the draw you're a ******. Froch was a mandatory, the champion usually earns more in a mandatory fight. Sometimes fighters have to give opponents more than they deserve to get them in the ring, that doesn't make them the a-side.

              not arguing, but wow, how the hell did Bute make more than Froch ?

              good for him LMAO

              ..... and the bold is ironically true, considering recent events..... you had to slip that one in didn't ya?

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                #97
                Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                Historically, Canelo will be held in higher regard than Golovkin, no question.

                Oh, and not a huge Khan fan btw.

                Canelo is a multi-division champion who has beaten a number of opponents who were of a higher caliber then any of Golovkin's victims, and some were world-class.

                higher caliber = held in greater regard within their respective divisions

                Head-to-head it is debatable, but not on paper..... Canelo ranks higher, and he is not a middleweight (yet).

                who, with consideration given to when/how, is the only criteria

                Golovkin will be penalised for the poor state of the current middleweight division, but he certainly has not helped his cause by passing on top fights, including with Canelo himself.

                Golovkin still has time, but not many opportunities on the horizon..... whereas Canelo has LOTS of time, and will have more big opportunities.
                No he definitely will not. He might have a better resume right now, but Canelo is not a great fighter. He's very good, not great. GGG is a bonafide great fighter, he's more or less undisputed MW champion, Canelo has not been undisputed anything in his career. If his rivals would actually step in the ring with him his resume would smoke Canelo's.

                I ask again, can you provide me with proof that Canelo made an offer to GGG?

                there's absolutely no grounds to say that GGG has swerved a fight with Canelo. That's absolute horsecrap.

                H2H is not debatable. Especially after Canelo ducked him.

                Late '17 though. All agreed.

                Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                you sure..... ?
                Yes i'm sure. Last time Khan fought in the UK the arena was half empty. He hasn't been on PPV in half a decade, has been forced to fight on primetime and boxnation because Sky weren't interested in his fights, not even the Canelo fights.

                According to Hearn, Brook does the second best ratings on Sky out of all of his fighters. Better than Eubank as he says in this interview. Start at 40:

                https://<iframe width="854" height="...reen></iframe>

                Some of Khan's fights doesn't even get picked up by UK TV like the Algieri fight. Brook's fights get shown on Showtime & on Sky and he has headlined a PPV event recently.

                That has nothing to do with what Hearn makes. Hearn might pay Brook more than what he gets in. Irrelevant to how many people watches his fights, which, obviously is in Brook's favour in the UK.
                Last edited by LacedUp; 07-12-2016, 02:22 AM.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by LacedUp
                  Please. If you have an open budget there's nothing to hide.

                  As Hearn quite rightly says, if it's good enough for Joshua and Froch? It's good enough for Eubank.
                  Joshua and Froch don't have an ex-boxer as a manager who knows the financials of promoting.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                    Joshua and Froch don't have an ex-boxer as a manager who knows the financials of promoting.
                    Yeah luckily they have/had an actual promoter who knows how to put on a show, not an ex fighter playing around.

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                      #100
                      It's 80/20 split of the profits for Brook/Hearn, not 80/20 Brook/GGG.

                      As Hearn kept saying, 'it's your show' - how much Brook earns will depend on how much profit the night makes. Obviously it's a huge fight with guaranteed profit - Hearn will have costed different models for PPV buys etc, and Brook will know roughly the absolute minimum he is likely to make. It's not a set fee with a cut of PPV (which is what GGG will be getting) - it's 80% of the total profit the event makes. Hearn gets the other 20%.

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