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  • aboutfkntime
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    #121
    Originally posted by Raonic
    There wasn't really a lot of opponents to choose from. Canelo/BJS rejected him. Jacobs has a fight in August/September already. CE Jr rejected him. Cotto is moving back down to 154. He already beat Lemieux. Quillen/Lee/N'Dam aren't looking too hot either (coming off losses/fighting in the Olympics). So basically the top MWs weren't really available at all for a September fight.

    If he couldn't get a unification fight like he wanted and couldn't get a top 10 MW, then there's no reason to reject a big money fight with Brook. You're really just nitpicking here. The guy will fight 3 times this year and he was offered a (near) career payday and you want him to reject that?

    Nah, I don't believe that at all.

    Been listening to that old song for a long time now.

    That team is full-of-****, I don't believe a word they say anymore.

    They should have backed up their hollow promises with action.....

    Loeffler said that Golovkin would have no problem fighting at a catchweight against Alvarez.....

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      #122
      You golov-defenders are......

      1) completely failing to hold Team Bull**** to their word, yet again

      2) as a result, you are embarrassing yourselves by struggling to explain why Golovkin selected Kell Brook

      fun-n-games, whenever the golov-circus is back in town LMAO

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      • LacedUp
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        #123
        Originally posted by aboutfkntime
        Evidence..... ?


        What the fk would you call this, you asshat ?.....

        FACT: Canelo said " I will fight you at 155 tomorrow "

        FACT: Despite saying this..... "Golovkin would have no problem fighting at a catchweight against Alvarez"..... Team Bull**** totally refused to negotiate on the weight

        Spin that however you like dude.


        The new " angle " that you and spin-doctors like kafkod are running with..... that, "there was no offer"..... is shamefully, childishly, dishonest..... and you know it LMAO

        Just how lame can you sad fcuk's get..... that is shameful, you clowns are LITERALLY in denial.

        1) there were 2 OFFICIAL negotiations, what do you think they discussed during those negotiations..... you rocket scientist? LMAO

        2) on what planet is this statement NOT a genuine offer..... "I will fight you at 155 tomorrow"..... get real son

        3) what don't you understand about this flip-flop.....

        Golovkin's promoter Tom Loeffler says there's about a 50% chance we'll see a Canelo-GGG title fight, and that the fight taking place at the full middleweight limit is non-negotiable.

        4) using english only, what did Tom Loeffler refuse when he stated that a catch-weight is"non-negotiable"..... what word best describes what Tom Loeffler rejected..... short word, starts with o, rhymes with otter..... think hard, I know you can do it

        YOU CLOWNS ARE IN DENIAL, LITERALLY !!

        Enjoy thinking up ridiculous excuses to explain why Golovkin CHOSE to fight Kell Brook.
        You still bring out quotes. There was no offer or negotiations.

        All that happened was Oscar saying to Loeffler that they were going a different direction. The quaking in their boots direction.

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        • Box-Office
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          #124
          Originally posted by LacedUp
          No they didn't. Not at all in the same way and if you're trying to deny it you're a joke.

          Brook has fought 4 times straight on Showtime. He's a champion in the WW division, gets talked about on ESPN (before the GGG fight) and now has announced this year's biggest event.

          Only khanturds are following up with that comment. Most people just think he doesn't have ring IQ and his chin is paper mache. and that's the truth. He's not very skillful, makes a ton of mistakes and can't concentrate for more than 4 rounds when faced with a decent opponent. That is the sad truth.

          Yes Brook sold more than that multiple times. And why not discuss Khan's most recent outing in the UK where they gave away free tickets?

          Nobody's saying Khan wasn't a draw about half a decade ago. But he's not a draw now. He's totally irrelevant on the UK and US scene. His "super fight" with Canelo did 320k PPV and he got knocked clean out. It was shown at 6am on boxnation ffs.

          Brook > Khan in every aspect.

          Khan knows this and that's why he wouldn't go near Brook if his life depended on it.

          Speaking of recent outing according to the rumours on Twittersphere they gave away free tickets for Brook-Bizier and even had Luke Campbell on undercard cuz he sells well. Khan was a Draw and can go back to it as there is a precedence, Kell was NEVER a draw. Even that PPV he headlined vs Gavin was all due to the undercard.



          Yeah, GGG's PPV did hardly 100 K. I mean are you even someone to bring up PPV #s?


          It was 460K pal, get that right.



          How is he irrelevant on US scene when he just came off a PPV fight vs Canelo? Why are you so disingenuous, might I add embarrassing?


          Oh look Kell is catching up with Khan and is fighting on Showtime. Khan has been on HBO/Showtime since 2009, get with the times!


          After his fight with GGG, the fact will remain, 36 wins, 1 name......and a LOSS.

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            #125
            Originally posted by Box-Office
            Speaking of recent outing according to the rumours on Twittersphere they gave away free tickets for Brook-Bizier and even had Luke Campbell on undercard cuz he sells well. Khan was a Draw and can go back to it as there is a precedence, Kell was NEVER a draw. Even that PPV he headlined vs Gavin was all due to the undercard.

            Yeah, GGG's PPV did hardly 100 K. I mean are you even someone to bring up PPV #s?
            It was 460K pal, get that right.

            How is he irrelevant on US scene when he just came off a PPV fight vs Canelo? Why are you so disingenuous, might I add embarrassing?


            Oh look Kell is catching up with Khan and is fighting on Showtime. Khan has been on HBO/Showtime since 2009, get with the times!


            After his fight with GGG, the fact will remain, 36 wins, 1 name......and a LOSS.
            Sure they did.

            Khan can't go back to being a draw because no one gives a crap about him anymore. His bubble has been burst and everyone knows he's not as good as they hoped he would be.

            Well, according to box office figures you are wrong. Consistently selling out arenas, getting excellent ratings on Sky & headlining now 2 ppvs.

            It was 320k. 460 was a bogus number.

            "Rick Glaser, a longtime matchmaker and boxing personality, said on Facebook that Canelo-Khan sold 332,000 pay-per-views"

            The Canelo-Khan pay-per-view is rumored to have not done very well at all, and nobody is giving us any reason not to believe the rumors.


            Khan has not been on showtime/HBO since 2009 no.

            They decided not to pick up his fight with Algieri because it ******.

            And we're talking UK broadcasting, where's been forced to fight on the likes of primetime and boxnation mainly after crying like a girl over Sky sports removing his sad ass PPVs to Skysports 3.

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            • Raonic
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              #126
              Originally posted by aboutfkntime
              Nah, I don't believe that at all.
              Tell me which MW would have been acceptable then for an early Sept fight? And we're talking about legitimate MW here. They said they wanted to unify the 160 title (or face their mandatories) but if not, then they would move up/down for a money fight (which Brook is).

              Been listening to that old song for a long time now.

              That team is full-of-****, I don't believe a word they say anymore.

              They should have backed up their hollow promises with action.....

              Loeffler said that Golovkin would have no problem fighting at a catchweight against Alvarez.....
              Not sure how long ago Loeffler said that but they made it pretty clear the past year or so they wanted to unify at the 160 pound limit.

              The problem isn't even the weight anyway. Canelo already said he'd fight GGG at no CW. The problem right now is that Canelo simply doesn't want to fight right now. His team already tried to postpone to Sept 2017 and vacated the belt to do so.

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                #127
                Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                Historically, Canelo will be held in higher regard than Golovkin, no question.

                Oh, and not a huge Khan fan btw.

                Canelo is a multi-division champion who has beaten a number of opponents who were of a higher caliber then any of Golovkin's victims, and some were world-class.

                higher caliber = held in greater regard within their respective divisions

                Head-to-head it is debatable, but not on paper..... Canelo ranks higher, and he is not a middleweight (yet).

                who, with consideration given to when/how, is the only criteria

                Golovkin will be penalised for the poor state of the current middleweight division, but he certainly has not helped his cause by passing on top fights, including with Canelo himself.

                Golovkin still has time, but not many opportunities on the horizon..... whereas Canelo has LOTS of time, and will have more big opportunities.
                I just joined the forum.... Are there really Canelo supporters here? How does any boxing fan defend a blatant ducker? He dropped the green belt bro. I saw him hand it to Golovkin in person on youtube. How do you think Canelo's resume is better than Golovkin's with that big duck-shaped asterisk next to his name. (Vacated WBC Title Quack*)

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                  #128
                  Originally posted by LacedUp
                  You still bring out quotes. There was no offer or negotiations.

                  All that happened was Oscar saying to Loeffler that they were going a different direction. The quaking in their boots direction.

                  FACT: Canelo demanded a catchweight

                  FACT: Golovkin promised to give Canelo a catchweight

                  FACT: When it came time to fight, Golovkin totally refused to negotiate on the weight.


                  Golovkin SHOOTS DOWN Canelo At 155lbs! Says 160 Or NO FIGHT.....


                  Negotiations are underway for a fall showdown between middleweight champions Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin (35-0, 32KOs) and Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez (35-0, 32KOs). The World Boxing Council ordered the boxers to face each other in the fall and discussions between the two sides began a few days ago. They have a very short window to reach a deal, because WBC has set a purse bid date of May 24th in Mexico City.


                  WBA/IBO/IBF middleweight champion Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin (34-0, 31KOs) is very confused with Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez's position of demanding a catch-weight of 155-pounds for a potential fall showdown.

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                  • aboutfkntime
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by Raonic
                    Tell me which MW would have been acceptable then for an early Sept fight? And we're talking about legitimate MW here. They said they wanted to unify the 160 title (or face their mandatories) but if not, then they would move up/down for a money fight (which Brook is).

                    Not sure how long ago Loeffler said that but they made it pretty clear the past year or so they wanted to unify at the 160 pound limit.

                    The problem isn't even the weight anyway. Canelo already said he'd fight GGG at no CW. The problem right now is that Canelo simply doesn't want to fight right now. His team already tried to postpone to Sept 2017 and vacated the belt to do so.

                    1) they should have negotiated on the weight with Canelo, like they promised

                    2) they shouldn't have lied about the offer to Saunders, they should have paid him what they are willing to pay Brook

                    3) they shouldn't have offered Jacobs " Quillin money "

                    That team are tip-toeing through the tulips.

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                      #130
                      Originally posted by MarshallDrum
                      I just joined the forum....

                      I see that.....


                      Originally posted by MarshallDrum
                      Are there really Canelo supporters here? How does any boxing fan defend a blatant ducker? He dropped the green belt bro. I saw him hand it to Golovkin in person on youtube. How do you think Canelo's resume is better than Golovkin's with that big duck-shaped asterisk next to his name. (Vacated WBC Title Quack*)

                      use big words next time

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