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  • Rath
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    #101
    Originally posted by tangalog2200
    pac's camp i believe did not pursue the appeal to nsac as nsac is expected to cover its own *ss over the issues/scandal....

    rejecting a request to use a legal shot prior the fight and allowing a tue 3 weeks later for the other camp is fair?
    knowing how genius floyd fans logic works the answer is yes.

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    • tangalog2200
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      #102
      Originally posted by Zaroku
      The NSAC can grant whatever they want, in violation of existing rules. I agree that rules are not applied consistently. They never will be.

      On another note: let's see which convicted felons ***** pardons on his way out the door. Presidential pardons cannot be challenged. It is the chief executive's right to grant pardons. That being said, Floyd's TUE cannot really be challenged successfully. Good luck finding an attorney on a contingency basis to take them on.
      "The NSAC can grant whatever they want, in violation of existing rules. I agree that rules are not applied consistently. They never will be."

      you have just given a very valid view why the suit vs pac was a very weak one....

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        #103
        Originally posted by Reloaded
        Or there was proof he did no wrong , Im sure the insiders would have a lot more access to private information than a bunch of fans arguing their favorite .

        Common sense has got to say that IF Floyd did anything legally wrong , Bob Arum would be all over it like a rash .

        All this BS in here and whats floating around the public hear say system called gossip is nothing more than fans being fans with 1/2 a story .

        If it were anything else to any of this Arum would be hollowing like a Banshee , they have not raised a single issue , I believe the truth is in that ..
        sadly, bob will not really rock the system that made him....not for pac, not for anybody...

        he would just mumble some token face saving blah blah blahs but he will not really go against the system in vegas....after all, there is still more to life for bob after pac....

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          #104
          Originally posted by tangalog2200
          "The NSAC can grant whatever they want, in violation of existing rules. I agree that rules are not applied consistently. They never will be."

          you have just given a very valid view why the suit vs pac was a very weak one....
          It is a different proceeding all together. PAC is facing a class action lawsuit. I am friend of Sherman Ellison esq, and many other prominent lawyers.

          Has the PAC lawsuit been dismissed?

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            #105
            Originally posted by revelated
            Not the same thing.

            If you put on a form under penalty of perjury that you're not injured going into the fight, then later claim you were injured going into the fight, you've broken the rules. That's what Manny did. I know of no other fighter that's done that.

            I don't think any other fighter is at any sort of risk because they are at least honest on the form - "Yes I'm injured, but I'm still showing up".

            Look at Cotto/Martinez. It was well documented that Maravilla had substantial knee problems and the betting odds were nowhere near in his favor as a result. I know of nobody who thought Sergio was winning that fight. Now, had he put "Nope, not injured" then get schooled by Cotto and cut an interview saying "yeah, but my knees doe", it'd be the same thing.

            No...don't defend Pacquiao. He doesn't deserve it. To this day we don't even know the real story.
            What he said! ^^^^^^^
            Excellent!

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              #106
              Originally posted by tangalog2200
              pac's camp i believe did not pursue the appeal to nsac as nsac is expected to cover its own *ss over the issues/scandal....

              rejecting a request to use a legal shot prior the fight and allowing a tue 3 weeks later for the other camp is fair?
              Not sure what you mean. USADA granted the TUE. NSAC disallowed the shot. These are two very separate issues, and NSAC told the reasons that they disallowed the shot.

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                #107
                Originally posted by tangalog2200
                misleading? that is one big issue to tackle.....

                as i also said before, any pronouncements/actions fighters say or do can be qualified as promoting/marketing the fight.....

                if someone in pac's camp promised a 9th round k.o. over an opponent and it did not happen, can you sue them?

                if you bet on an nba team and a star player of that team did not play for whatever reason and you lost your bet, can you sue?
                Predicting a 9th round win, and failing to disclose an injury under penalty of perjury are completely different legal questions.

                One is material concealment of a known injury. It is that simple.

                Maybe, but... That form he signed will bite him in the azz. Prior inconsistent statements. PAC has given too many interviews, his interviews with phillipine news groups will also come into play.

                This stuff gets ugly real fast. He should hide behind the fact that he is a non native English speaker, and the form should have been in Tagalog.
                Last edited by Zaroku; 05-28-2016, 01:26 AM.

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by revelated
                  Not the same thing.

                  If you put on a form under penalty of perjury that you're not injured going into the fight, then later claim you were injured going into the fight, you've broken the rules. That's what Manny did. I know of no other fighter that's done that.

                  I don't think any other fighter is at any sort of risk because they are at least honest on the form - "Yes I'm injured, but I'm still showing up".

                  Look at Cotto/Martinez. It was well documented that Maravilla had substantial knee problems and the betting odds were nowhere near in his favor as a result. I know of nobody who thought Sergio was winning that fight. Now, had he put "Nope, not injured" then get schooled by Cotto and cut an interview saying "yeah, but my knees doe", it'd be the same thing.

                  No...don't defend Pacquiao. He doesn't deserve it. To this day we don't even know the real story.
                  "If you put on a form under penalty of perjury that you're not injured going into the fight, then later claim you were injured going into the fight, you've broken the rules. That's what Manny did. I know of no other fighter that's done that."

                  floyd have not indicated in the form that he was "dehydrated"....then claimed later he was and that he needed 750ml iv.....

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by Zaroku
                    Predicting a 9th round win, and failing to disclose an injury under penalty of perjury are completely different legal questions.

                    One is material concealment of a known injury. It is that simple.

                    Maybe, but... That form he signed will bite him in the azz. Prior inconsistent statements. PAC has given too many interviews, his interviews with phillipine news groups will also come into play.

                    This stuff gets ugly real fast. He should hide behind the fact that he is a non native English speaker, and the form should have been in Tagalog.
                    the issue of perjury is another ticklish question.....

                    one may have an old injury....

                    but when that old injury came into the equation during the fight is a big ? was it already healed before the fight? is it still a factor even before the first bell? did it become an issue later? is it not that how a fighter feels about his condition is truly subjective?

                    now, let's go to the other side....

                    was floyd really dehydrated before the fight? was it indicated in the form? was the iv procedure done in the prescribed manner? was the tue not 3 weeks too late?

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                    • Zaroku
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by tangalog2200
                      the issue of perjury is another ticklish question.....

                      one may have an old injury....

                      but when that old injury came into the equation during the fight is a big ? was it already healed before the fight? is it still a factor even before the first bell? did it become an issue later? is it not that how a fighter feels about his condition is truly subjective?

                      now, let's go to the other side....

                      was floyd really dehydrated before the fight? was it indicated in the form? was the iv procedure done in the prescribed manner? was the tue not 3 weeks too late?
                      PAC said he was hurt 3 weeks before. Yet his NASC form doesn't reflect this. Post fight PAC says he was hurt.

                      Floyd isn't being sued. I don't get the relevance to the issue.

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