Comments Thread For: Showtime Sues Top Rank: Mayweather-Pacquiao Legal Fee Dispute

[Zaroku]

one poster here already pointed out the weaknesses of the case...

fighters or players of other sports do say things....mostly with a view of promoting the fight/game.....it is just pure marketing....and who can contradict that?

don't get me wrong, this is just to point out an incident that happened; the one that floyd was taken to task for the savage sparring sessions and drugs? whatever, in his gym.....and the bottom line is that nothing really came out of it because the incident was qualified as "staged" for blah blah blah reasons....

He is wrong. See the NFL and MLB were sued for something similar. The case came down to a judge ruling that the NFL is for entertainment only, as it is the sanctioning body for all pro football games.

No central authority in boxing. No NFL to sue. Completely different legal questions.

[Zaroku]

misleading? that is one big issue to tackle.....

as i also said before, any pronouncements/actions fighters say or do can be qualified as promoting/marketing the fight.....

if someone in pac's camp promised a 9th round k.o. over an opponent and it did not happen, can you sue them?

if you bet on an nba team and a star player of that team did not play for whatever reason and you lost your bet, can you sue?

Show me case law? Prove your point. PAC was deceptive!

[tangalog2200]

He is wrong. See the NFL and MLB were sued for something similar. The case came down to a judge ruling that the NFL is for entertainment only, as it is the sanctioning body for all pro football games.

No central authority in boxing. No NFL to sue. Completely different legal questions.

there is nothing above that addressed what i pointed out in my post....

[tangalog2200]

Show me case law? Prove your point. PAC was deceptive!

"Prove your point. PAC was deceptive!"

zaroku zaroku.....you bet on floyd, yes?

why were you not "deceived" by pac? ha ha ha ha....come on!

[Zaroku]

"Prove your point. PAC was deceptive!"

zaroku zaroku.....you bet on floyd, yes?

why were you not "deceived" by pac? ha ha ha ha....come on!

I agreed that PAC has a separate lawsuit for lying. His prior inconsistent statements are easily searchable.

I bet Floyd. If I would have bet PAC, I would join the lawsuit.

He made too many inconsistent statements.

He is being sued, not Floyd. I wonder why? Don't you wonder why? Floyd has more money. Right?

[Zaroku]

Top Rank had also allegedly indemnified Showtime

I have literally just gone through a similar court case where I (call me Showtime) was forced to defend a lawsuit despite being indemnified by a fellow defendant (call them Top Rank/Manny).

Court found that I had no role to play in the proceedings, dismissed the lawsuit and awarded me costs against both the plaintiff and co-defendant - sounds great until you factor in that it took 6 months out of my life and you only ever get 50-65% of your costs back so left me in need of a good holiday and over 100k out of pocket

That was under Australian law and other major possible difference is that plaintiff ought reasonably have known that I had been indemnified

I'd say that Showtime probably has a case and TR/Manny will be trying to haggle them down

In any event, there is no point going to court over 600k as lawyers will chew that up in a heartbeat

Showtime does have a case, it is proceeding. It will be settled before ever making it to trial. I have been involved in several civil cases in the U.S.

TR indemmnifed Showtime, they are on the hook. I bet if Bob would not have pushed PAC into contradicting his prior statements, this lawsuit would be dismissed out of hand. Pac signed pre fight NSAC form, under penalty of perjury! Yeah, they have a case.

If it gets to depositions, it will only get worse for TR.

[tangalog2200]

I agreed that PAC has a separate lawsuit for lying. His prior inconsistent statements are easily searchable.

I bet Floyd. If I would have bet PAC, I would join the lawsuit.

He made too many inconsistent statements.

He is being sued, not Floyd. I wonder why? Don't you wonder why? Floyd has more money. Right?

you still do not have a full grasp of the intricacies of the issues involved....

and you did not answer a simple question why pac failed to deceive you...

on the issue of honesty and lying....who was honest? who lied?

did you return the money you won on betting on floyd knowing now pac lied? did you return the money you won on betting on floyd knowing now how floyd concealed his dehydration and how he went on to rehydrate and got a belated tue? that you admit you have never ever heard before?

why was floyd not sued? you did not sue floyd....so you must know the answer to that question.....

[Zaroku]

you still do not have a full grasp of the intricacies of the issues involved....

and you did not answer a simple question why pac failed to deceive you...

on the issue of honesty and lying....who was honest? who lied?

did you return the money you won on betting on floyd knowing now pac lied? did you return the money you won on betting on floyd knowing now how floyd concealed his dehydration and how he went on to rehydrate and got a belated tue? that you admit you have never ever heard before?

why was floyd not sued? you did not sue floyd....so you must know the answer to that question.....

It is a contractual dispute. Nothing more, nothing less. TR agreed to indemnify Showtime, against any litigation arising from the match between Floyd & PAC...


Making it as simple as possible... So you can understand.

Would this lawsuit have been initiated if PAC wasn't a liar?

PAC's statements, from his own lips, caused this lawsuit. Causing Showtime to be sued, in a court of law, not a court of t@rds. Idiots that feel it was noble and heroic of PAC to hide his injury, thus generating lawsuits against both HBO & Showtime for PAC's failure to disclose, under penalty of perjury, his shoulder injury.

TR/Arum/etc are being sued for proper issues. I don't know about Filipino law, but the standard of review in civil matter is preponderance of the evidence.

Most civil attorney's call it 51% of the evidence.

Let's see how it plays out. Right?

I believe, TR/PAC will settle out of court.

All could have been avoided if PAC didn't let. Arum make him lie.

It is a simple digital logic question.

He either lied before the fight by his failure to disclose a pre existing condition, which he should have disclosed on his NSAC form, that PAC signed. PAC signed it. The weight that a signed document carries in a court of law is very important. That signed document, under penalty of perjury really blows a hole is the subtitles in PAC's current lies. PAC signed it. Not knowing what you are signing is no excuse in the USA. PAC ****ed up. It is that simple.

In his post fight interview, PAC never mentioned anything about the injury.

Let's see how far it goes, but I believe it will be settled out of court, with money and no admission of wrong doing. I have been in civil court several times. I actually have first hand experience.

I kinda wish I would have bet PAC so I could get paid.

One more thing, I was in a class action against 24 hour fitness and got paid.

Just an FYI. If I could prove I bet on PAC, I would get paid again.

Lying comes back to haunt a person, especially where money is involved.

Several Filipino's are taking legal action. They lost based on TR lies.

This is irrefutable. Yet, cheating Floyd gets away. Why don't you and Spoon23 see if any attorney's find merit in a class action lawsuit against Floyd!

[Zaroku]

you still do not have a full grasp of the intricacies of the issues involved....

and you did not answer a simple question why pac failed to deceive you...

on the issue of honesty and lying....who was honest? who lied?

did you return the money you won on betting on floyd knowing now pac lied? did you return the money you won on betting on floyd knowing now how floyd concealed his dehydration and how he went on to rehydrate and got a belated tue? that you admit you have never ever heard before?

why was floyd not sued? you did not sue floyd....so you must know the answer to that question.....

Just so we are clear. Floyd is a lying, cheating, piece of ****, he hugs too much, runs like an ostrich, and I can't stand his TBE bull****.

TBE, **** him
TBCCE, The Best Cheating Champion Ever, yes.!!!!!!

Jhonny ****ing hates him. Not cuz Floyd is black, Jhonny is black.
F Floyd forever.

[titan m]

I'm amazed at how much was spent on fighting these dumbass lawsuits. How is it even a thing you can sue over a guy not disclosing an injury?

This happens all the time in combat sports cuz it'd be really f#cking ****** to say how your right hand has been bothering you going into a fight for obvious reasons. And where is the boundary drawn with this sorta ****.

Can I sue Netflix & Kevin Spacey if Spacey told were to tell Entertainment Weekly that during the most recent season of House of Cards he was really sick & didn't think he acted to the best of his ability?

Can I sue fast food restaurants cuz clearly someone is always having a bad day there cuz that **** ain't looked like it does in the commercial since 1952?

It seems like you can get away with suing anybody for anything now, so you probably could. When a person can sue Starbucks for 5 million because of the amount of ice in their iced drink, anything is possible.