155 = 164

[robertzimmerman]

Leonard relinquished the LHW title without trying to defend it against anybody.

So that wasn't even remotely similar to what Canelo is doing with the MW title now.

I think Razcal has stated that Ray would have done so, had he have the opportunity.

But I think it's a joke what Canelo's doing.

[i'm a fun haver]

Another knuckle-dragging nut guzzling Bumlovkinite who failed reading comprehension...

You and the rest of your alt accounts spewing horse **** doesn't change facts, f@gg0t.
Bunch of sub 70 IQ street animals in here acting like they know something lol

[i'm a fun haver]

Fighting Ward @ 168 was Dawson's idea.

Dawson hadn't fought at 168 for six years but it was all his idea to fight at 168.
Watch Ward's team act like a bunch of ignorant street animals when Shaw and Dawson start talking about whose idea it really was to fight at 168.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQwNn-jrV98

[robertzimmerman]

Agreed. What Canelo is doing is bull****, but I've got no sympathy for GGG after trying to do the same thing to Ward. The fanboys obviously defended it back then, claiming "A-side doe!!!".

Well, he's not the A-side now.

It wasn't the same thing.

[robertzimmerman]

That doesn't at all detract from my original point.

First, Canelo is the champion @ MW. Bumlovkin is a titlist. Big difference.

Second, the fact that they both fight in the same division also doesn't detract from my original point. 155 = 164. A catchweight is a catchweight. It is very hypocritical of Team Triple Duck to demand a 164lb catchweight for Ward [all while having agreed to fight other SMWs @ the full 168lb limit] but on the other hand refuse to fight Alvarez @ 155lbs. That is the very definition of hypocrisy and anyone who doesn't hold Bumlovkin's feet to the fire for ducking Ward or refusing the 155lb catchweight proves themselves nothing other than a fanboi and nut guzzler...

So you're not going to allow for any circumstances, and you're just going to repeat your original points?

Great.

[emre belozoglu]

Golovkin gets a hard time but he did let himself down with the ward offer he should take the fight at 155 he'll win and it'll do his career wonders he needs to start forcing good fights wade is boring

[robertzimmerman]

Golovkin gets a hard time but he did let himself down with the ward offer he should take the fight at 155 he'll win and it'll do his career wonders he needs to start forcing good fights wade is boring

He shouldn't have to take the fight at 155.

We don't want boxing to sink any lower.

[gmc_rfc_06]

Ultimately, people defend or criticize catchweights when it suits them.

[emre belozoglu]

He shouldn't have to take the fight at 155.

We don't want boxing to sink any lower.

He shouldn't have to but it would be better for his career he's so good that going down is only a bit of a risk and he needs to get on track and fast because he's struggling for good fights (not his fault) and him asking ward for a catchweight undermines his stance a bit aswell

[robertzimmerman]

He shouldn't have to but it would be better for his career he's so good that going down is only a bit of a risk and he needs to get on track and fast because he's struggling for good fights (not his fault) and him asking ward for a catchweight undermines his stance a bit aswell

From what I can gather, there were no serious negotiations with Ward. Ward said 50/50 on the purse, so Golovkin's team said 50/50 on the weight.

Since then people have ran with it.

I agree that Golovkin desperately needs a big fight, but he shouldn't have to concede even a pound a to the lineal belt holder, who can weigh in as high as 172 on fight night.