Let's be honest...Mayweather was boring

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  • IronDanHamza
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    #121
    Originally posted by A-Wolf
    "You would say?" Are you guessing?
    I'm confused. Am I guessing what?

    Just other words to say that IMO their situations were similar in regards to both being labelled as boring fighters.

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    • Sugar Adam Ali
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      #122
      I enjoyed watching him when matched with a legit opponent..

      I had no desire to watch him vs berto, Sosa, bruscles..

      But matched vs a guy that came to fight like-
      chavez
      famoso
      hatton
      cotto
      oscar
      maidana

      and floyd was fun to watch IMO

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      • A-Wolf
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        #123
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza
        I'm confused. Am I guessing what?

        Just other words to say that IMO their situations were similar in regards to both being labelled as boring fighters.
        In the most generic sense, ok. Sure.

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          #124
          Originally posted by A-Wolf
          This is where the discussion gets straight dumb. We're talking about making a direct comparison between Mayweather and Whitaker. Generic arguments are for mainstream sports. Not boxing. This is where we split hairs. Was Whitaker "boring" to a true purist? Was he a "runner" to a learned fan? **** no. Could Floyd be rightfully accused of those things by the same group? **** yes. But it's all subjective. IMO on issues like this one, this, is where we separate the true morons from the people that have half a clue and really understand the artform.


          No, what's "straight dumb" is you denying that Whitaker received the same criticism from many people that he was "boring." Whitaker was also heavily criticized for what was described as "showboating" and called a "runner" by many with the same ignorant mentality towards Mayweather.

          By denying it you're not only lying but showing how disingenuous you are in this discussion. You don't like Mayweather so you don't like the fact that they were both criticized for very similar reasons and with the same magnitude.
          Last edited by joseph5620; 02-26-2016, 02:06 PM.

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            #125
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza
            I'm not sure, it was pretty similar I'd say. People called them both boring and mainly due to the defensive style they used and I'd say just a general lack of KO's for the most part.

            Although IMO younger Floyd was more exciting than any version of Whitaker. But, 147 Whitaker was more exciting to watch than 147 Floyd though, IMO.

            Difference between the two is Floyd has a huge PPV star with his "boring" style unlike Whitaker who didn't manage to reach those levels of stardom.
            please.

            pernell was more offensively active than floyd.

            pernell showed great athleticism AND MORE IMPORTANTLY GUTS with the way he evaded punches.

            pernell was a better jabber than floyd. you never saw floyd exhibit or emulate pernell's unreal athleticism when it came to evading punches.

            floyd always either LITERALLY RAN from offensive exchanges or clinched like a weak little beyotch while pernell showcased his raw unmatched skill of reading and evading punches.

            that was clear when a coked out pernell was styling on a ULTRA PRIME oscar as well as an ULTRA PRIME tito trinidad.

            name me a fighter that floyd faced that was better than a ultra prime oscar or tito?


            they do not compare.

            and you know it.

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              #126
              Originally posted by joseph5620
              No what's straight dumb is you denying that Whitaker received the same criticism from many people that he was "boring." Whitaker was also heavily criticized for what was described as "showboating" and called a "runner" by many with the same ignorant mentality towards Mayweather.

              By denying it you're not only lying but showing how disingenuous you are in this discussion. You don't like Mayweather so you don't like the fact that they wrestle both criticized for very similar reasons and with the same magnitude.
              Ok. Before I go any further show me where I did that.

              IDIOT.

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              • A-Wolf
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                #127
                Originally posted by Sterling Archer
                please.

                pernell was more offensively active than floyd.

                pernell showed great athleticism AND MORE IMPORTANTLY GUTS with the way he evaded punches.

                pernell was a better jabber than floyd. you never saw floyd exhibit or emulate pernell's unreal athleticism when it came to evading punches.

                floyd always either LITERALLY RAN from offensive exchanges or clinched like a weak little beyotch while pernell showcased his raw unmatched skill of reading and evading punches.

                that was clear when a coked out pernell was styling on a ULTRA PRIME oscar as well as an ULTRA PRIME tito trinidad.

                name me a fighter that floyd faced that was better than a ultra prime oscar or tito?


                they do not compare.

                and you know it.
                I don't think we should have to even get into this stuff honestly. It should go without say. Sadly. It had to be said.

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                • IronDanHamza
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by Sterling Archer
                  please.

                  pernell was more offensively active than floyd.

                  pernell showed great athleticism AND MORE IMPORTANTLY GUTS with the way he evaded punches.

                  pernell was a better jabber than floyd. you never saw floyd exhibit or emulate pernell's unreal athleticism when it came to evading punches.

                  floyd always either LITERALLY RAN from offensive exchanges or clinched like a weak little beyotch while pernell showcased his raw unmatched skill of reading and evading punches.

                  that was clear when a coked out pernell was styling on a ULTRA PRIME oscar as well as an ULTRA PRIME tito trinidad.

                  name me a fighter that floyd faced that was better than a ultra prime oscar or tito?


                  they do not compare.

                  and you know it.
                  Well yeah I'd agree with a lot of what you're saying there.

                  But that doesn't change the fact that many labelled him boring when he was active.

                  You brought up "running", but for example when Whitaker fought Ramirez both times, he fought the entirety of the fight on the backfoot and was accused of "running" in those fights. Other than perhaps Baldomir (top of my head) I don't recall Mayweather doing that. IMO Whitaker was a lot better mover than Floyd, a lot more fluid and less flat footed (at times) but as I mentioned he was accused of "running" for that at times.
                  Last edited by IronDanHamza; 02-26-2016, 02:17 PM.

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                  • IronDanHamza
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by A-Wolf
                    In the most generic sense, ok. Sure.
                    What are you opposed to in this discussion? Because I'm not really clear as to what your stance is.

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                      #130
                      Originally posted by A-Wolf
                      Ok. Before I go any further show me where I did that.

                      IDIOT.
                      So I need to show you what you clearly posted in this thread? If you're too ****** to remember what you posted I'm not going to show you anything.

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