who among suspected PED user got away the most: Pacquaio, Mayweather or Marquez?

[ADP02]

Reading and comprhending doesn't require "logic". Its in black and white, well sometimes emphasized in red for the pact@rds, and its Wada policy. You nor Hausers editorial piece can change that.


Where "logic" comes in is applying the policy to real life situations. And being that Floyd was APPROVED for the iv use with zero reprecussions, I can logically conclude that ultimately....."Floyd did nothing wrong". Those are the facts.


Being that I base MY opinions on logical application of FACTS, I agree that Floyd did nothing wrong. When you remove speculation, rumors and unkown, you probably would too. That's my honest opinion. Now if Wada reversed the tue and Floyd had to appeal, then i can conclude something was wrong. That's logic.


As as the rest of the boxing world. Who knows what there intentions are. But I do know Wada acknowledged that rehydration via is a topic of huge debate.
Not a debate amongst pact@rds and flom0s, but a debate on the MEDICAL FIELD.


Wada wants to "be in the know" when athletes are using a method that can potentially be used to alter testing. They don't want it done behind closed doors because that would create a culture beneficial to those who do cheat. Which I agree. It's logical.


Think of the current gun laws in the US. Although people kill with guns, you can't outlaw All guns. So people can own gun, and have a contitutional right to do so, but it may require a license especially if you want to carry on public. Every acknowledges it is a topic that is HEAVILY DEBATABLE. Get a permit and your good. Simple.



Athletes want to use an iv, but there is a protocol Wada wants them to adhere to. That's fine. And logically, since Floyd has no adverse findings and passed 19 test, I can see why they felt it was fair to grant a tue.
It was APPROVED. He even provided a sample before and after. Facts.

No its clear as day. You are just having problem with all this because its Floyd and you are his fan. I understand but at a certain point you need to question all that occurred.

If every single one that had much clearer weight differences than Floyd wanted to, according to your logic, they would all do that. Then what?

If they allowed it for Floyd then they have to allow it for others.

If I have time, I will clear some of this out for you all and like I said, you will all go running back to your deflections after that. Trust me!!!

What deflections? Well, you already made it in your post. That is your fall back statement but the reality is that we know enough.

Floyd gave his statements. Ellerbe agreed. NSAC gave a statement that agreed with what FLoyd said. They are all agreeing. Now its for Floyd fans to come on board with what Floyd said and see if it all makes sense. It does not.


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[ADP02]

He might even want to do a little research.

"For moderate or severe cases of dehydration, the body may not respond to attempts to rehydrate orally. A doctor, or emergency medical professionals, can decide whether IV rehydration is needed. Adults may become dehydrated from being sick or from exercising vigorously without drinking enough water."
http://www.healthline.com/health/int...tion#Overview2

I'm sure he knows all about what the medical professionals said about Floyd's case, since apparently he was there.

This guy is a complete, utter moron.

Do not forget to include this important statement that was in your article.

"Adults rarely require IV treatment for dehydration. Children, however, are much more likely to get dangerously dehydrated from being ill. IV treatment is often necessary."


Even then, Floyd was NOT moderately nor severely dehydrated ..... but if Floyd was severely dehydrated, I would be human enough to accept that but not because Floyd said so. Only of the information provided agrees with that statement and it CLEARLY DOES NOT!!!

Science is science. Floyd's weight was relatively stable for 30 days including his fight night weight. That is the nail in the coffin!

[ADP02]

You take the high roid and I'll take the low roid, they all cheat at that level!!

Gatorade, V-8, h20, vitamin C drink!!! All options!
I would have had an extra dry martini with two olives and a hot japa ho!

Just sit back and relax, this is going to turn very ugly soon.

They are trying to find the needle in the haystack (loophole) but the needle is right in front of them and contains 2 letters ........ IV.

[ADP02]

1. If there are completely different criteria, why aren't there completely different applications? Why is there simply one application where section 5 has simply a check box asking whether it is a retroactive application?

2. As I've already stated, why doesn't the section that covers retroactive TUE's specifically mention important things that the section that introduces TUE's mention, like:

b. the method must not produce any enhancement of performance
c. there must be no reasonable the****utic alternative to the method
d. the method must not be a consequence of a substance or method that was prohibited at the time of use.

So none of these things apply to the retroactive TUE? It now would allow you to unnaturally enhance yourself, it doesn't matter if there are more reasonable options, and it doesn't matter if the use was required because the athlete did something else dirty? Can either of you please explain this?


The code is crystal clear, and for the two of you to not be able to understand it....well, I'm not surprised by GTT. He's a moron. But ADP.....this is truly embarrassing for you. But I'm happy this is happening. The code is right in front of your face and you can't dodge it. Like I mentioned before, you'd say anything to go along with your agenda no matter how ridiculous. Your credibility is shot.

The problem is that you are not looking at this correctly. I will explain but then something (history) will have it that there will be a deflection across the board (Floyd fans).

[Zaroku]

Just sit back and relax, this is going to turn very ugly soon.

They are trying to find the needle in the haystack (loophole) but the needle is right in front of them and contains 2 letters ........ IV.

Jhonny, his daughter Memi and I are waiting!!

[Spoon23]

The problem is that you are not looking at this correctly. I will explain but then something (history) will have it that there will be a deflection across the board (Floyd fans).

How can he? He has a reading comprehension disorder. Even worse, it might even be autism.

There last defense is deflection. Your patience in handling this children is to be most admired ADP02.

Just don't expect a sensible answer from these ******s and you'll be fine. It takes time for a baby to crawl, but through persistence you will put sense into these damned and brainwashed children.

They will eventually learn to crawl and even walk to a world were fraud ways do not reside.

[Dosumpthin]

No its clear as day. You are just having problem with all this because its Floyd and you are his fan. I understand but at a certain point you need to question all that occurred.

If every single one that had much clearer weight differences than Floyd wanted to, according to your logic, they would all do that. Then what?

If they allowed it for Floyd then they have to allow it for others.

If I have time, I will clear some of this out for you all and like I said, you will all go running back to your deflections after that. Trust me!!!

What deflections? Well, you already made it in your post. That is your fall back statement but the reality is that we know enough.

Floyd gave his statements. Ellerbe agreed. NSAC gave a statement that agreed with what FLoyd said. They are all agreeing. Now its for Floyd fans to come on board with what Floyd said and see if it all makes sense. It does not.


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That statement sums it up.



I have REPEATEDLY told you if you don't like the FACT Floyd was APPROVED for the tue, CONTACT WADA. They have the authority to reverse the approval.


Its not According to "my logic" - it's according to "WADA code". Big difference. You're acting like rath disguising his lack of understanding as "genius Floyd logic".


I'm reading the code word for word while you're still in denial - even ignoring whole sections and implying there are "unwritten rules".


Dissappointing to say the least.

[Spoon23]

That statement sums it up.



I have REPEATEDLY told you if you don't like the FACT Floyd was APPROVED for the tue, CONTACT WADA. They have the authority to reverse the approval.

Is that a white flag I see? Contact WADA? This is a place to debate about the facts. What you have done is throw the towel and just say let the authority do it's job lol

'The hell with this!'

1 up ADP02!

ADP02 scores again!

Nicely done chap!

[ADP02]

No its clear as day. You are just having problem with all this because its Floyd and you are his fan. I understand but at a certain point you need to question all that occurred.

If every single one that had much clearer weight differences than Floyd wanted to, according to your logic, they would all do that. Then what?

If they allowed it for Floyd then they have to allow it for others.

If I have time, I will clear some of this out for you all and like I said, you will all go running back to your deflections after that. Trust me!!!

What deflections? Well, you already made it in your post. That is your fall back statement but the reality is that we know enough.

Floyd gave his statements. Ellerbe agreed. NSAC gave a statement that agreed with what FLoyd said. They are all agreeing. Now its for Floyd fans to come on board with what Floyd said and see if it all makes sense. It does not.


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That statement sums it up.



I have REPEATEDLY told you if you don't like the FACT Floyd was APPROVED for the tue, CONTACT WADA. They have the authority to reverse the approval.


Its not According to "my logic" - it's according to "WADA code". Big difference. You're acting like rath disguising his lack of understanding as "genius Floyd logic".


I'm reading the code word for word while you're still in denial - even ignoring whole sections and implying there are "unwritten rules".


Dissappointing to say the least.

See I was right.

While you bring up the code and that you are understanding it correctly, you still have one foot outside the door just in case there is an earthquake and you are very wrong. Do not take my words the wrong way but that foot that you have outside the door is you saying that you are ready to play dumb again and deflect.

[Dosumpthin]

Is that a white flag I see? Contact WADA? This is a place to debate about the facts. What you have done is throw the towel and just say let the authority do it's job lol

'The hell with this!'

1 up ADP02!

ADP02 scores again!

Nicely done chap!

You goofball.


You're idea of debating is saying the "facts" that are presented are really "lies".

Then supplement the "facts" with Thomas hausers "opinions" that are based on speculation.

If we were debating facts you should say "Wada should change the rules of a tue (fact) because all atheletes not named Manny cheats" (opinion).


Floyd followed the rules of the tue and usada and Wada approved it. FACT.

See how that works? Now if you want to have a meaningful debate about facts I'm all for it.

I'll go first.























49-0. Manny was 48. FACT. Your turn.