who among suspected PED user got away the most: Pacquaio, Mayweather or Marquez?

[ADP02]

I think you're just trolling. Probably some tech guy at NSB. Your profile name states ''Pac is a drug cheat.'' Surely you're pissing the toss.

That must be it ..... not.

I'm not sure but I would think that just like someone can add it, I can remove it ........ but at this point in time, I think I prefer seeing that because it reminds me that it did not take any evidence whatsoever to get Floyd fans to believe Floyd and company that Manny was on PEDs. All it took is their hero to say it was true and they believed.

Now that the shoe is on the other foot, the hypocritical Floyd fans cannot understand why its so. Furthermore, there is good evidence to back up our claims. We have pointed them out so no need to again but we can start with Floyd actually did take a banned method. They admitted it and we think that their reasons are not warranted but it helps when you pay the guys who are going to make the final decision.

Even if USADA was not an intentional participant, meaning tag team partners in this, they had lots of pressure and money to sway their thoughts on this subject.

[GTTofAK]

For Floyd fans, an OR is an OR is an OR ..... so it must be true.

Yes if you capitalize size, bold and red an OR. It can suddenly be used to link clauses from entirely different sections.

[Dosumpthin]

I saw it, I read it correctly. You did not. You confused the mix and match from travestyny as on section because you are ******. He put two sections together to make them seem like they were one. The OR has no baring on the different section for a retroactive tue. Travestyny is trying to apply the OR to the chronic conditions section of the normal TUE process.

The criteria doesn't change. Being that you're ****** I wouldn't expect for you to understand simple logic statements like P IMPLIES Q.

Adp02 claims that Floyd can only be issued a tue for severe dehydration. This is what HAUSER implied and went so far as to SPECULATE Floyd was not severely dehydrated and should not have been granted a tue because he doesn't look like it.


Which is wrong and ****** for many reasons. One of them being, as it was explained by travestny, that there are other medical conditions such as CHRONIC dehydration that require an IV according to WADA.

And CHRONIC dehydration can not be diagnosed solely based on weight. So it debunks all of adp02 theory. In an attempt to save face, adp02 is the one ignoring the other scenarios that APPLY to submitting an application retroactively.

If you have a chronic condition it is by definition not sudden and you should have applied for a TUE under normal protocol.

You are only applying section A. listed for reasons a retroactive tue application would be accepted . ACUTE CONDITION


Now this is the big fat OR you can't comprehend.

OR

b. NOT ENOUGH TIME TO APPLY OR FOR THE APPLICATION TO BE PROCESSED before giving the sample

OR

C. we at Wada feel like it's fair to allow the athlete to submit the application AFTER the sample. Yep. Because we ****ing feel like it.


So now that you are less ******, let's move on to ivs and tues.

This entire argument being made of course is ignoring the FACT that WADA has specifically addressed IV re-hydration and stated explicitly that it is not a valid method for treatment of mild to moderate dehydration. Any vague reading of the TUE rules is trumped by WADA's explicit ban on IV re-hydration.

Here is where all pact@rds get ******. Over and over. Yes. Its banned. That's why you need a tue. Yes. A theraputic use exemption. That's what it means. Without one, you can't use the iv. And you can not get a tue for an iv if you are mildy dehydrated after exercising. So why did usada approve the the? Oh yeah 150k.......So why didn't Wada reverse the tue usada approved retroactively??? Are they on the take as well. NOPE.



YOU AND THOMAS HAUSER says Floyd was mildy dehydrated. But every one knows you are both ****** because neither of you are his doctor NOR are you a member of the TUEC (the****utic use exemption committe). So all you have is uneducated speculation.

[Lester Tutor]

That must be it ..... not.

I'm not sure but I would think that just like someone can add it, I can remove it ........ but at this point in time, I think I prefer seeing that because it reminds me that it did not take any evidence whatsoever to get Floyd fans to believe Floyd and company that Manny was on PEDs. All it took is their hero to say it was true and they believed.

Now that the shoe is on the other foot, the hypocritical Floyd fans cannot understand why its so. Furthermore, there is good evidence to back up our claims. We have pointed them out so no need to again but we can start with Floyd actually did take a banned method. They admitted it and we think that their reasons are not warranted but it helps when you pay the guys who are going to make the final decision.

Even if USADA was not an intentional participant, meaning tag team partners in this, they had lots of pressure and money to sway their thoughts on this subject.

The UFC was highly cracked down for Steroid use.
Pride FC (Yakuza invested)- Fedor Emelianenko, never wanted UFC and its drug testing...
Strikeforce, roids
K1 - Badr Hari, big time Steroid head
Bellator, roids

Victor Conte HIMSELF saying he has WITHOUT A DOUBT that Pac was juicing, especially in the Phillipines. Conte said that Pac was juicing, and said it in a non subliminal or speculative way.

The point is other parts of the world don't have to follow American standards or ethics for drug testing. Only the naive think that other countries are better than the states.

In sports in general over the span of years including the Olympics how many athletes have been caught with performance enhancing drugs with their merits stripped away?

Pac never wanting WADA in 2010. Pac just cruising through weights like no one's business... Bonds, McGuire, Conseco...

Now you tell me, do you honestly think Pac didn't roid his way throughout? Has Top Rank or Roıach's company of fighters ever been hit with roid use?

Yeah that's right.. Think about it!

[GTTofAK]

The criteria doesn't change.

Well yes it does. The retroactive TUE doesn't mention chronic conditions. By definition a chronic condition doesn't meet the standard for a retroactive TUE because it is not sudden so there should have been time to apply for a TUE.

Adp02 claims that Floyd can only be issued a tue for severe dehydration. This is what HAUSER implied and went so far as to SPECULATE Floyd was not severely dehydrated and should not have been granted a tue because he doesn't look like it.

Which is wrong and ****** for many reasons.

No its 100% correct because its not a hypothetical. Its not something that we are trying to see if it complies with the rules. It is something that has been specifically addressed by WADA and WADA concluded it does not comply with their rules.

The use of IV infusions in sport is commonly linked with rehydration after exhaustive effort, and this situation is arguably the major cause of debate. It must be understood that the use of IV fluid replacement following exercise to correct mild to moderate dehydration is not clinically indicated nor substantiated by the medical literature. There is a well-established body o scientific evidence to confirm that oral rehydration is the preferred the****utic choice, potentially even more effective than IV infusion.
(Ref: 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16)

That is the word of WADA. Thats it end of story. They have looked at the medical literature and determined that IV re-hydration its not medically sported for mild to moderate dehydration and therefore does not fall under the TUE rules.

[Dosumpthin]

Well yes it does. The retroactive TUE doesn't mention chronic conditions. By definition a chronic condition doesn't meet the standard for a retroactive TUE because it is not sudden so there should have been time to apply for a TUE.

Oh I get it. You think section a and b are the same. MEANWHILE you ignore section c.

That's the problem. Your ******.

You have no idea how long it takes to apply and for the committe to approve. There it is.

There was no time for Floyd to submit because he had a weigh in and a 500 million dollar fight the next day. Wada REPEATEDLY STATES THE HEALTH AND TREATMENT FOR THE ATHLETE IS FIRST AND FOREMOST, figure out the rest later. **** happens. So you have b and c.

No its 100% correct because its not a hypothetical. Its not something that we are trying to see if it complies with the rules. It is something that has been specifically addressed by WADA and WADA concluded it does not comply with their rules.

HAUSER STATES "one can speculate" in his article when speaking about the severity of Floyd's dehydration. Wtf are you talking about? Idiot.

That is the word of WADA. Thats it end of story. They have looked at the medical literature and determined that IV re-hydration its not medically sported for mild to moderate dehydration and therefore does not fall under the TUE rules.

Answer this. Why hasn't WADA reversed the tue then? Explain.

[ADP02]

Oh I get it. You think section a and b are the same. MEANWHILE you ignore section c.

That's the problem. Your ******.

You have no idea how long it takes to apply and for the committe to approve. There it is.

There was no time for Floyd to submit because he had a weigh in and a 500 million dollar fight the next day. Wada REPEATEDLY STATES THE HEALTH AND TREATMENT FOR THE ATHLETE IS FIRST AND FOREMOST, figure out the rest later. **** happens. So you have b and c.





HAUSER STATES "one can speculate" in his article when speaking about the severity of Floyd's dehydration. Wtf are you talking about? Idiot.




Answer this. Why hasn't WADA reversed the tue then? Explain.

So that is what Lance Armstrong had to do.


Be honest. Using your logic, how hard would it be to say that in the sport of boxing, where many boxers are much more dehydrated at weigh in than Floyd had been for all of his WW and JMM fights, to be exempted from this ban?

You are pretty much exempting everyone in boxing from this rule if you apply your logic.

[ADP02]

The UFC was highly cracked down for Steroid use.
Pride FC (Yakuza invested)- Fedor Emelianenko, never wanted UFC and its drug testing...
Strikeforce, roids
K1 - Badr Hari, big time Steroid head
Bellator, roids

Victor Conte HIMSELF saying he has WITHOUT A DOUBT that Pac was juicing, especially in the Phillipines. Conte said that Pac was juicing, and said it in a non subliminal or speculative way.

The point is other parts of the world don't have to follow American standards or ethics for drug testing. Only the naive think that other countries are better than the states.

In sports in general over the span of years including the Olympics how many athletes have been caught with performance enhancing drugs with their merits stripped away?

Pac never wanting WADA in 2010. Pac just cruising through weights like no one's business... Bonds, McGuire, Conseco...

Now you tell me, do you honestly think Pac didn't roid his way throughout? Has Top Rank or Roıach's company of fighters ever been hit with roid use?

Yeah that's right.. Think about it!

Bonds, McGuire, Conseco... had to go thru baseball's anti-doping regulations that was standard for all of them.

Manny was asked by one guy to follow his newly made up rules. Manny was concerned that giving blood may affect his training and on fight night.

years later, Floyd uses a banned method. Floyd said that Manny was right. Blood given 10 days out affected Floyd.


Now you tell me, do you honestly think Floyd didn't roid his way throughout? Have you ever seen someone get a retroactive TUE when he weighed just like he usually did in his other fights and comes in on fight night just a few pounds more?

He just had to drink a bit .....

Yeah that's right.. Think about it!

[Zaroku]

Yes if you capitalize size, bold and red an OR. It can suddenly be used to link clauses from entirely different sections.

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[Zaroku]

Bonds, McGuire, Conseco... had to go thru baseball's anti-doping regulations that was standard for all of them.

Manny was asked by one guy to follow his newly made up rules. Manny was concerned that giving blood may affect his training and on fight night.

years later, Floyd uses a banned method. Floyd said that Manny was right. Blood given 10 days out affected Floyd.


Now you tell me, do you honestly think Floyd didn't roid his way throughout? Have you ever seen someone get a retroactive TUE when he weighed just like he usually did in his other fights and comes in on fight night just a few pounds more?

He just had to drink a bit .....

Yeah that's right.. Think about it!

You take the high roid and I'll take the low roid, they all cheat at that level!!