who among suspected PED user got away the most: Pacquaio, Mayweather or Marquez?

[ADP02]

Yeah because BoxingScene.com and every other boxing site were covering the rumors that Floyd's punching power had increased!

Apparently Conte would be seriously concerned when the whole boxing community of fighters are not subjected to drug testing.

You can play dumb ADP, but apparently every boxer is suspect according to you, including your beloved Pac. And unfortunately you continue to lose because what does Alex Ariza have to do with being in the Philippines specifically for Pac or monitor what he has done throughout his career? You do realize Pacquiao does have a boxing team? Seriously.

I'm your boogieman son.

Nice try.

There is already a boogieman here on BS. He wanted to prove to me that Floyd won round 3 easily. Once he realized that was not the case, he started saying that I was cheating.


About Conte:
He is talking about Ariza and Mayweather not everyone else. Go check out what Conte said about the IV scandal. Only Floyd used a banned method. Ciao Boogieman!

[Lester Tutor]

Nice try.

There is already a boogieman here on BS. He wanted to prove to me that Floyd won round 3 easily. Once he realized that was not the case, he started saying that I was cheating.


About Conte:
He is talking about Ariza and Mayweather not everyone else. Go check out what Conte said about the IV scandal. Only Floyd used a banned method. Ciao Boogieman!

It's obvious when your tone is different towards me.

#48!

[ADP02]

It's obvious when your tone is different towards me.

#48!

Like I thought, you would be deflecting again.

[Lester Tutor]

Like I thought, you would be deflecting again.

Deflecting? What is it that we are all talking about? Is it an ''IV'' thread? Or you when see defeat you try a different angle and play dumb with the same angle? #48!

''who among suspected PED user got away the most: Pacquiao, Mayweather or Marquez?''

It's my pleasure always schooling you or reminding you of the actual meaning of the question.

[Dosumpthin]

Oh look at that the moron bolded some stuff red. And made some vague ****ing statement because he reads at a 4th grade level. News flash you ****ing idiot. The references WADA uses specifically defines sever dehydration.



Now shut the **** up you ****ing alt. You think no one has noticed that you are one of travesty's alts?

Looks like you need more red. I told you, read the ENTIRE section to yourself out loud putting EMPHASIS on the words in red.

Lets try it again for the dumbass.

Even though the majority of cases of dehydration can be treated via oral consumption, IV treatment of severe dehydration (>7% body weight loss), exertional heat illness, nausea, emesis, or diarrhea, and in those who cannot ingest oral fluids for other reasons, is clinically indicated.2,3,7,23,68

Got it you illiterate ****? Good. Now let me explain so you can become less ******.


Majority - meaning most but not all - of the cases of dehydration can be treated orally....

Then it list multiple medical conditions that are the exception - or the minority -


1.Severe dehydration
2.exertional heat illness
3.emesis - vomiting
4.diarrhea
5.those who cannot ingest oral fluids

Where iv rehydration is clinically indicated.



In reality, these can all be considered as symptoms that may be triggered by an unknown acute OR chronic medical condition.


So stop saying they only approve iv if you have 7% weight loss. Dumb ****. Learn to read the ****ing code.

[ADP02]

Looks like you need more red. I told you, read the ENTIRE section to yourself out loud putting EMPHASIS on the words in red.

Lets try it again for the dumbass.



Got it you illiterate ****? Good. Now let me explain so you can become less ******.


Majority - meaning most but not all - of the cases of dehydration can be treated orally....

Then it list multiple medical conditions that are the exception - or the minority -


1.Severe dehydration
2.exertional heat illness
3.emesis - vomiting
4.diarrhea
5.those who cannot ingest oral fluids

Where iv rehydration is clinically indicated.



In reality, these can all be considered as symptoms that may be triggered by an unknown acute OR chronic medical condition.


So stop saying they only approve iv if you have 7% weight loss. Dumb ****. Learn to read the ****ing code.

Floyd said he was severely dehydrated and it was due to his training ..... and he was able to drink orally.

Please continue ......

[Dosumpthin]

We are putting into question the validity of the retroactive TUE approval and why the IV was given in the first place.

No matter how you spin it, you don't have the necessary information or credentials to give anything other than an OPINION based on SPECULATION and the UNKOWN.

I told you contact WADA. Tell them conte and hauser said something is su****ious and they should check it out.

We are also putting into question whether Floyd was even dehydrated to any significant degree?

Dehydration is a symptom. You don't know the medical condition. Deal with reality not fiction.

BUT here are facts:

Medical condition:
Actually NSAC issued a statement.
The statement came from USADA and states that Floyd requested an IV due to dehydration. This is a fact.

You still do not know the cause or severity of the dehydration. Deal with reality not fiction.

The statement mentions that the reason was due to Floyd being dehydrated.

"According to records provided by the Nevada Athletic Commission: Mayweather also applied for, and was given, a the****utic use exemption (TUE) for rehydration purposes after the May 1 weigh-in. He took two separate mixes."

Dehydration is a symptom. We do not know the cause. The iv use was used to rehydrate, due to being dehydrated which was caused by an unknown medical condition.

Remeber I think Floyd had acute diarrhea. He was scared ****less of the 100 punch Manny. Probably was vomiting as well. But that's just me speculating and offering my SHlTTY OPINION.

"Concerns related to dehydration".

Furthermore, Floyd/Ellerbe had an interview that does not conflict with the official statement that USADA gave to NSAC. It actually reaffirmed the statement and went one step further. Floyd and Ellerbe stated why Floyd was dehydrated.

Furthermore, Floyd goes on another interview and continues to state this and also brings up that Floyd was "extremely dehydrated"

Furthermore, Ariza was interviewed and agreed with Floyd's statement.

Furthermore, all statements do not conflict with one another. On top of that there were no statements made to state that their previous statements were incorrect in part or full.

Yes they all describe a symptom from an unknown medical condition.


[

B]So the above are all facts. We know X and are questioning how B approved the retroactive TUE.....[/B]

Facts prove that Floyd's weight was relatively stable.
Facts see that Floyd was able to drink orally.
Fact is that Floyd said that some other athletes rehydrate by other ways such as using a product such as pedialyte whereas the IV route is just an alternative that they used instead.

Well Floyd, why did you not just stick with an alternative instead of an IV? That is what the WADA code states. If there is an alternative, you must use that route. In fact there are many ways that Floyd could have rehydrated.

FACT:
- 30 days out = 150lbs
- 2 weeks out = 149lbs
- 1 week out = 148lbs
- Weigh in = 146lbs
- fight night = 149

After fight interview: Floyd was boasting that at 149, he was "physically extremely strong"

Pointless. You do not know the cause or the severity of the dehydration. You need to know the OFFICIAL MEDICAL CONDITION.

FACT: USADA and studies have stated on how to assess your dehydration:
- to weigh yourself before and after your training session.
- For each 1 pound of fluids lost, just drink 3 cups of water.

Floyd was well on his way there and still had to drink and eat as Floyd said he did "a lot".


So the above information and also Floyd's vital signs being all normal puts into question why the IV, when Floyd was basically close to if not fully rehydrated by the time he left MGM.

Wada and usada guidlelines you mention are regarding mild dehydration CAUSED BY EXERCISE OR WORKING OUT. That's not a medical condition.

you do not know the medical condition. Why don't you understand this? The medical condition is not "dehydration". The iv use was to adress concerns related to dehydration - which is a symptom - we don't know if the condition was acute or chronic. We don't know what Floyd had an issue with.
There is more ......

[

B]As for your other questions:[/B]
Just like Lance Armstrong did (very similar scenario) Floyd paid his doctor to agree with Floyd's version of the story and supply some documentation.

This is an OPINION based on speculation.
This is a pattern with you. Deal with reality not fiction. Anyone who has a family friend who is a doctor can cheat Wada according to this statement. So it's a usless opinion.

[

B]WADA:[/B]
They do not usually look at cases that have not been rejected (optional). They may look at USADA's protocol in general but not individual cases unless they start seeing something ...... So it becomes a needle in the haystack. Even then, I'm sure that they are all trying to cover their tracks which makes it a lot harder.

Did you just really type that? So floyd vs Manny was a needle in a haystack? The most anticipated sporting event of all time is a "needle in the haystack"?


Well I figured you felt that way before and I told you to inform Wada that there was a high profile boxing match last may that involved usada who allowed the highest paid athelete to cheat. Send them the Thomas hauser article and a link to spoon/rath threads.



You can't be serious.

IS WADA ON THE TAKE OR NOT. ITS SIMPLE. don't bull****. They know what's going on. Are they part of the conspiracy?


If you don't include them in someway you know it means the tue was justified. So what are we debating about again?

We are putting into question the validity of the retroactive TUE approval and why the IV was given in the first place.

Oh yeah. Back to square one. Its been confirmed the iv use is legit. So do you think Wada should change the rules?

[Dosumpthin]

Floyd said he was severely dehydrated and it was due to his training ..... and he was able to drink orally.

Please continue ......

Floyd isn't a doctor. What was his physicians diagnosis?

[ADP02]

Nice try.

There is already a boogieman here on BS. He wanted to prove to me that Floyd won round 3 easily. Once he realized that was not the case, he started saying that I was cheating.


About Conte:
He is talking about Ariza and Mayweather not everyone else. Go check out what Conte said about the IV scandal. Only Floyd used a banned method. Ciao Boogieman!

It's obvious when your tone is different towards me.

#48!

Like I thought, you would be deflecting again.

Deflecting? What is it that we are all talking about? Is it an ''IV'' thread? Or you when see defeat you try a different angle and play dumb with the same angle? #48!

''who among suspected PED user got away the most: Pacquiao, Mayweather or Marquez?''

It's my pleasure always schooling you or reminding you of the actual meaning of the question.

You want to know about Conte but then you do not want to know when its about your hero Floyd. Got it!

[GTTofAK]

1.Severe dehydration
[COLOR="Red"]2.exertional heat illness
3.emesis - vomiting
4.diarrhea
5.those who cannot ingest oral fluids

And Friod didn't claim any of them.

So stop saying they only approve iv if you have 7% weight loss.

You need to learn to read the code. The code says explicitly only severe dehydration.