who among suspected PED user got away the most: Pacquaio, Mayweather or Marquez?

[Zaroku]

Bonds, McGuire, Conseco... had to go thru baseball's anti-doping regulations that was standard for all of them.

Manny was asked by one guy to follow his newly made up rules. Manny was concerned that giving blood may affect his training and on fight night.

years later, Floyd uses a banned method. Floyd said that Manny was right. Blood given 10 days out affected Floyd.


Now you tell me, do you honestly think Floyd didn't roid his way throughout? Have you ever seen someone get a retroactive TUE when he weighed just like he usually did in his other fights and comes in on fight night just a few pounds more?

He just had to drink a bit .....

Yeah that's right.. Think about it!

Gatorade, V-8, h20, vitamin C drink!!! All options!
I would have had an extra dry martini with two olives and a hot japa ho!

[travestyny]

For Floyd fans, an OR is an OR is an OR ..... so it must be true.

Yes if you capitalize size, bold and red an OR. It can suddenly be used to link clauses from entirely different sections.

1. If there are completely different criteria, why aren't there completely different applications? Why is there simply one application where section 5 has simply a check box asking whether it is a retroactive application?

2. As I've already stated, why doesn't the section that covers retroactive TUE's specifically mention important things that the section that introduces TUE's mention, like:

b. the method must not produce any enhancement of performance
c. there must be no reasonable the****utic alternative to the method
d. the method must not be a consequence of a substance or method that was prohibited at the time of use.

So none of these things apply to the retroactive TUE? It now would allow you to unnaturally enhance yourself, it doesn't matter if there are more reasonable options, and it doesn't matter if the use was required because the athlete did something else dirty? Can either of you please explain this?


The code is crystal clear, and for the two of you to not be able to understand it....well, I'm not surprised by GTT. He's a moron. But ADP.....this is truly embarrassing for you. But I'm happy this is happening. The code is right in front of your face and you can't dodge it. Like I mentioned before, you'd say anything to go along with your agenda no matter how ridiculous. Your credibility is shot.

[Spoon23]

So that is what Lance Armstrong had to do.


Be honest. Using your logic, how hard would it be to say that in the sport of boxing, where many boxers are much more dehydrated at weigh in than Floyd had been for all of his WW and JMM fights, to be exempted from this ban?

You are pretty much exempting everyone in boxing from this rule if you apply your logic.

Well said. That was a deadly but smooth cut to the midsection. He's reality has been altered by that statement.

[GTTofAK]

b.the method must not produce any enhancement of performance

Re-hydrating does enhance performance. So shut the **** up.

IVs allow you to gain more water mass back than is physically possible during the time between weigh-in and fight. That does enhance athletic performance.

c. there must be no reasonable the****utic alternative to the method

This is the big on and explicitly why WADA ban's IV re-hydration. There is no medical evidence that IV re-hydration is superior to oral re-hydration or mild to moderate dehydration

The use of IV infusions in sport is commonly linked with rehydration after exhaustive effort, and this situation is arguably the major cause of debate. It must be understood that the use of IV fluid replacement following exercise to correct mild to moderate dehydration is not clinically indicated nor substantiated by the medical literature. There is a well-established body of scientific evidence to confirm that oral rehydration is the preferred the****utic choice, potentially even more effective than IV infusion.
(Ref: 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16)

There it is in black and white from WADA. The literature says that oral re-hydration is a reasonable the****utic alternative to IV re-hydration. You ****ing lose.

[Dosumpthin]

So that is what Lance Armstrong had to do.


Be honest. Using your logic, how hard would it be to say that in the sport of boxing, where many boxers are much more dehydrated at weigh in than Floyd had been for all of his WW and JMM fights, to be exempted from this ban?

You are pretty much exempting everyone in boxing from this rule if you apply your logic.

Reading and comprhending doesn't require "logic". Its in black and white, well sometimes emphasized in red for the pact@rds, and its Wada policy. You nor Hausers editorial piece can change that.


Where "logic" comes in is applying the policy to real life situations. And being that Floyd was APPROVED for the iv use with zero reprecussions, I can logically conclude that ultimately....."Floyd did nothing wrong". Those are the facts.


Being that I base MY opinions on logical application of FACTS, I agree that Floyd did nothing wrong. When you remove speculation, rumors and unkown, you probably would too. That's my honest opinion. Now if Wada reversed the tue and Floyd had to appeal, then i can conclude something was wrong. That's logic.


As as the rest of the boxing world. Who knows what there intentions are. But I do know Wada acknowledged that rehydration via is a topic of huge debate.
Not a debate amongst pact@rds and flom0s, but a debate on the MEDICAL FIELD.


Wada wants to "be in the know" when athletes are using a method that can potentially be used to alter testing. They don't want it done behind closed doors because that would create a culture beneficial to those who do cheat. Which I agree. It's logical.


Think of the current gun laws in the US. Although people kill with guns, you can't outlaw All guns. So people can own gun, and have a contitutional right to do so, but it may require a license especially if you want to carry on public. Every acknowledges it is a topic that is HEAVILY DEBATABLE. Get a permit and your good. Simple.



Athletes want to use an iv, but there is a protocol Wada wants them to adhere to. That's fine. And logically, since Floyd has no adverse findings and passed 19 test, I can see why they felt it was fair to grant a tue.
It was APPROVED. He even provided a sample before and after. Facts.

[travestyny]

Re-hydrating does enhance performance. So shut the **** up.

IVs allow you to gain more water mass back than is physically possible during the time between weigh-in and fight. That does enhance athletic performance.



This is the big on and explicitly why WADA ban's IV re-hydration. There is no medical evidence that IV re-hydration is superior to oral re-hydration or mild to moderate dehydration



There it is in black and white from WADA. The literature says that oral re-hydration is a reasonable the****utic alternative to IV re-hydration. You ****ing lose.

You idiot. Do I have to post the entire thing for you to comprehend?

b. The The****utic Use of the Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method is highly unlikely to produce any additional enhancement of performance beyond what might be anticipated by a return to the Athlete’s normal state of health following the treatment of the acute or chronic medical condition.

So what now, ******?

[Spoon23]

Wow! Froid roid is almost a hundred and winning the cheating poll by a landslide.

Insert Floyd recent comment:

Floyd Mayweather: I Retired Before 40, I Got The Last Laugh!


No Froid the community has the last laugh. Your legacy of being a fraud is now complete. Carry it proud.

[Dosumpthin]

There it is in black and white from WADA.

I'll add the red for the dumbass.


The use of IV infusions in sport is commonly linked with rehydration after exhaustive effort, and this situation is arguably the major cause of debate. It must be understood that the use of IV fluid replacement following exercise to correct mild to moderate dehydration is not clinically indicated nor substantiated by the medical literature. There is a well-established body of scientific evidence to confirm that oral rehydration is the preferred the****utic choice, potentially even more effective than IV infusion.



Read it again to yourself out loud and pronounce the words in red veryyyyy sloooowwwwly.

Loser



Edit: the word potentially

[Dosumpthin]

You idiot. Do I have to post the entire thing for you to comprehend?

b. The The****utic Use of the Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method is highly unlikely to produce any additional enhancement of performance beyond what might be anticipated by a return to the Athlete’s normal state of health following the treatment of the acute or chronic medical condition.

So what now, ******?

You have to add red for the pact@rds.

[travestyny]

There it is in black and white from WADA. The literature says that oral re-hydration is a reasonable the****utic alternative to IV re-hydration. You ****ing lose.

I'll add the red for the dumbass.


The use of IV infusions in sport is commonly linked with rehydration after exhaustive effort, and this situation is arguably the major cause of debate. It must be understood that the use of IV fluid replacement following exercise to correct mild to moderate dehydration is not clinically indicated nor substantiated by the medical literature. There is a well-established body of scientific evidence to confirm that oral rehydration is the preferred the****utic choice, potentially even more effective than IV infusion.



Read it again to yourself out loud and pronounce the words in red veryyyyy sloooowwwwly.

Loser



Edit: the word potentially

He might even want to do a little research.

"For moderate or severe cases of dehydration, the body may not respond to attempts to rehydrate orally. A doctor, or emergency medical professionals, can decide whether IV rehydration is needed. Adults may become dehydrated from being sick or from exercising vigorously without drinking enough water."
http://www.healthline.com/health/int...tion#Overview2

I'm sure he knows all about what the medical professionals said about Floyd's case, since apparently he was there.

This guy is a complete, utter moron.