who among suspected PED user got away the most: Pacquaio, Mayweather or Marquez?

[Rath]

and I read some of your posts. Correct me if I'm wrong but you appear to suggest that its not possible? Right?

- Floyd has turned up a T/E ratio that would be red flagged.
- Floyd has delayed being tested by at least 5+ hours on 2 occasions that we know of. There may be more.
- Floyd did take what was considered to be a prohibited method. Like Lance Armstrong retroactively providing a prescription, it was retroactively done nearly 3 weeks after the fight. So in essence, Floyd fought without approval of a prohibited method!
- Floyd NOT USADA, sets the start and end testing period.
- Floyd had Ariza who consulted with Memo about Floyd.

So just with the above data the question really becomes, how can you NOT think that its possible for Floyd to use PEDs?

Then to back it up, just turn to other sports. Cycling is the best example but there are other sports to. They said similar question about Lance.

- Lance, the A side of cycling, masked, delayed, blood transfusions, had his representatives paying organizations and people.
- Floyd, the A side of boxing, masked, delayed, admitted to some sort of blood transfusion side effects before Canelo fight, had his representatives paying organizations and people.



Its easier for Floyd than Lance since Floyd sets the testing period, the contract and gets tested for only weeks compared to the probability of 365/24/7. Yet you think its not possible?





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if lance can beat 500 drug testing control agencies world wide all year round for 20 yrs.

how hard is it for Floyd to beat a single drug testing agency (that does not conduct random drug testing) in few weeks time twice a year for 6 yrs?

[ADP02]

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You must be looking in the mirror Steve. You goofed on live TV and then even on your tweet by misspelling ..... but the below states why ..... lol

[ADP02]

if lance can beat 500 drug testing control agencies world wide all year round for 20 yrs.

how hard is it for Floyd to beat a single drug testing agency (that does not conduct random drug testing) in few weeks time twice a year for 6 yrs?

BINGO!

Now lets see if Floyd fans get it ..... I doubt that they all will. I'm sure a few brave soldiers will come here and deflect some more.

[Rath]

You must be looking in the mirror Steve. You goofed on live TV and then even on your tweet by misspelling ..... but the below states why ..... lol

this is what i have been saying since this "mistake" happened.

how could steve read it wrong if you look at the card?

and it was not just the card, the winner was also written on the teleprompter.

just like the final score card.

ring announcer was not just reading the remark where it says "unanimous decision mayweather".

he was also reading the scores 116-112, 116-112, SN 118 -110 that was clearly under the red corner slot.

[Robbie Barrett]

if lance can beat 500 drug testing control agencies world wide all year round for 20 yrs.

how hard is it for Floyd to beat a single drug testing agency (that does not conduct random drug testing) in few weeks time twice a year for 6 yrs?

Harder than you think, Pacquiao couldn't do it for years, he had to refuse the testing so he didn't get caught.

[travestyny]

1.
So you are STILL admitting that you deflected!

I have no problem with you calling it deflecting. Look up the definition of deflecting. It states "to change direction by interposing something." Now, do you know what precedence is? It's something used in the court of law. As someone who attended law school, perhaps you didn't, so maybe you don't understand this simple concept. I "deflected" to show you precedence. You should learn about it.


2a. travestyny Response: Pacquaio has to disclose his injured shoulder (correction: non-injured shoulder/desire for toradol) to NSAC.

ADP02 Response:
Yet you fail to comprehend that Floyd had to disclose his on-going dehydrating medical condition to the NSAC?
Yet you fail to comprehend that Floyd had to disclose his use of an IV?
Yet you fail to comprehend that Floyd had to disclose that he injected vitamins into his body?

Apparently, NSAC failed to comprehend it too since they said Floyd did nothing wrong. So um...how are you going to tell NSAC what they fail to recognize about their own rules, Idiot!!!!!

2b) travestyny Response: As for NSAC and USADA, they seem to have reconciled the issue, right?
ADP02 Response: Is that all you can say about this(see below)? You had initially said that USADA didn't have to let the NSAC know. Now think about what you said (travestyny SQUIRMING).

Why would I have to explain more? They explained that the method was not illegal per NSAC's rules and NSAC has dropped the issue. Maybe you should stop trying to speak for NSAC and pay attention to what the facts are!!!

In essence, what the NSAC is saying is, USADA has no right to approve a TUE in the state of Nevada. The NSAC has the sole authority to do so. Yet to you that meant, "They reconciled."
NSAC is technically saying that Floyd was never approved since USADA has no right to do so in Nevada.

Are you really an idiot? This was all explained and it's not an issue. How the hell can you keep trying to make this an issue between NSAC and USADA when this issue is resolved. Yes, I'm saying it again because you have poor comprehension skills.

3a) travestyny Response: "Yes, there was an issue with transparency. That is because... Pacquaio had an issue with transparency!!! lol. And he negotiated for more transparency. Can I be any more clear?"
ADP02 Response: See, you are coming around. Initially you couldn't say this but now you are admitting that "Yes, there was an issue with transparency".
This is what Hauser explained and you called it BS. Now you are finally on our side!!!

Can you comprehend anything. There is an issue BECAUSE PACQUIAO HAS AN ISSUE WITH TRANSPARENCY. I WROTE IT RIGHT THERE! There was an issue with drug testing during the first negotiation because PACQUAIO HAD AN ISSUE WITH DRUG TESTING. I never stated that there is n issue with transparency per se. I said there is an issue because PACQUAIO HAD AN ISSUE. And he negotiated to change it. Do you understand that?

You are correct in that Manny and his lawyers didn't think about Floyd premeditating what he did. Who could have thought that, really? Someone who for 5+ years saying they wanted a fair fight then the day before the fight, Floyd Mayweather was taking a prohibited method ....

WHO COULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT??????? THE DAMN CODE WAS RIGHT THERE FOR THEM TO LOOK AT. GET THE **** OUT OF HERE WITH THAT BS.


b) travestyny Response: The code covers a TUE for a substance or method that will bring the boxer back to normal health. I'm sorry if you are trying to spin that to mean he can test positive and hide it. IT'S A BLATANT LIE BY YOU AND HAUSER. STOP IT!

ADP02 Response: You are the one spinning this. You keep on deflecting and expecting people to think that you are right. That is the funniest part of all of this. BUT KEEP ON DEFLECTING!!! I give you simple questions that you can't respond to. Without your response, how can people correlate to the BS that you just stated here?

DID YOU ADDRESS WHAT I SAID AT ALL??????

4) travestyny Response: Dude, are you serious? He gave them millions of dollars and doesn't know when they are coming to collect? He also still has to beat the tests and mask PEDs. PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT YOU BELIEVE HE PAID FOR, SINCE YOU KNOW SO MUCH! I'LL BE WAITING FOR THIS ANSWER IN PARTICULAR
ADP02 Response: My previous post I responded and gave you even another example. I then said "Get it? I doubt it!". So I was right, you just do not get it. That is unfortunate!

By the way, this is called an example not as you tried to spin it by calling it a deflection. I showed how someone who controlled a lot in the world of cycling still had to tie up lose ends by doing the following .... but as your response suggests, you think money will cover all lose ends.

"Lance Armstrong. He still needed a retroactive prescription because the 3rd party lab still sent in a positive test. Get it? I doubt it!"

HAHAHAHAHA. WHY DIDN'T YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION? WHAT THE HELL DID HE PAY FOR??? YOU SEEM TO KNOW THERE WERE SOME CORRUPT OFFICIALS AND YOU SEEM TO KNOW FLOYD PAID MONEY FOR SOME KIND OF SERVICE. WHAT DID HE PAY FOR??? HE PAID TO NOT BE IN THE KNOW ABOUT ANYTHING AND TO HAVE TO CHEAT AND HIDE THINGS FROM THE COMPANY THAT HE PAID. PLEASE ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTIONNNNNN!!!
5) Memo Heredia:

travestyny Response: "1. He had a conversation with Ariza.
2. In the past when he delivered PED's, he never talked to the athlete directly.
Conclusion: He gave Floyd PED's. Is that your stance?"
ADP02 Response: 1. Memo said "We". If this was an investigation, this is what they would be looking for. Memo tripping all over himself.

Now go check out what Memo would say about
SPIEGEL: What kind of relationship did you have with your athletes?

Heredia: Business ties. It was all about levels and dosing. I rarely spoke with Marion Jones. It was done through her coaches.

SO UM..EVERYONE THAT MEMO EVEN TALKS ABOUT HE IS DELIVERING STEROIDS TO? LOL. YOU ARE REACHING BIG TIME, DUMMY. HOW ABOUT MEMO WORKING WITH FLOYD?

"...it would be up to Floyd to decide if he wants to have the two best strength conditioners in the world on his side or if he wants to go one against four,"

--MEMO Talking about how he is willing to help Floyd if he wants help."

But he was already working with him? lol.

6) ADP02 Response: "Still waiting for your proof that Floyd was severely dehydrated.......
travestyny Response: "Still waiting for your proof that he wasn't dehydrated."


7) travestyny Response: HOW IS THAT NO TRANSPARENCY WHEN YOU JUST WROTE WHAT THEY RECEIVED? LOL. Congratulations, you just managed to contradict yourself in one single breath of written English

ADP02 Response:
and I thought you were on board with there being an issue with transparency. What gives?

Already addressed. Next.

8) ADP02 Response: "Still waiting for your proof that Floyd was severely dehydrated. You have been avoiding the initial topic and deflecting. I'm sure you will continue too!

travestyny Response: Still waiting for your proof that he wasn't. Go look up burden of proof again.


There you go again. You provided NOTHING but deflection.
I on the other hand have at the very least given you 7-8 facts that point to Floyd not being severely dehydrated.
I even answered your silly deflection on how that could be enough:

You need to learn what a fact is. You talked about his heart beat and blood pressure. You have nothing about NSAC's specific findings on dehydration because even you said it doesn't matter to them. You have never shown precedence of NSAC ever finding a fighter to be dehyrated or stopping a fight from happening because of dehydration, yet you seem to know that fighters have been dehydrated before fights. I've told you many times what that means. Keep holding onto this, but no one buys your bs.


As far as what I said, the NSAC says this:
"The Commission need not follow the rules of evidence that a court must follow. All evidence that the Commission determines to be relevant and submitted in accordance with the requirements of this chapter is admissible."
OK. So please tell me what NSAC found. Last I heard they said FLOYD DID NOTHING WRONG!!! LOL. YOU ARE A CLOWN

Maybe we need to do this differently. Baby steps.

QUESTION: "Since you cannot even get me proof that Floyd was severely dehydrated. You have never really answered the question:
"Do you think that Floyd was dehydrated or severely dehydrated? .... GO ....."

Now, I will discuss every single point one by one starting from the top if need be. You haven't said one thing that is compelling, actually only idiotic. We can start with the deflection topic if you like. I'm here all day.

By the way, did you look up burden of proof? When you do, let's see what you got about dehydration. Let's have those cold hard facts, which I've shot down numerous times.

[Rath]

Harder than you think, Pacquiao couldn't do it for years, he had to refuse the testing so he didn't get caught.

ha ha ha ha ha, here goes this genius floyd fan again.

hundred of times it was established that Pac did not refuse the test but was asking cut off date.

Floyd refused VADA testing entirely.

now answer the real question and for once stop using your patented lame spin and pathetic deflection/diversion technique

or you would reply to this with a kindergarten insult or asian memes?

[travestyny]

Baby steps. Start with the last question that I have.

then make your way to answering my other questions.

Will answer tomorrow .... but I'm expecting the same. I hope that you prove me wrong.

Don't give me that ****. I see you still lurking here. Come out and man up so we can stop talking about this BS.

[ADP02]

Now, I will discuss every single point one by one starting from the top if need be. You haven't said one thing that is compelling, actually only idiotic. We can start with the deflection topic if you like. I'm here all day.

By the way, did you look up burden of proof? When you do, let's see what you got about dehydration. Let's have those cold hard facts, which I've shot down numerous times.

I waited but I see that you didn't answer my simple question at the bottom of my post. MORE DEFLECTION!!!

[Rath]

BINGO!

Now lets see if Floyd fans get it ..... I doubt that they all will. I'm sure a few brave soldiers will come here and deflect some more.

and you know what we overlooked?

it was not just one man (lance) who beat those testing agencies.

the whole US postal Team beat them, all 8 or 10 of them.