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  • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
    I'm not saying that Floyd was not dehydrated (was thirsty). What I'm saying is that Floyd was not severely dehydrated to the point that he required an IV.

    Like I said, there is a mountain of evidence that supports my case. Floyd's weight was stable for 30 days. They weighed him just before getting that IV. That in itself shoots down anything you can come up with. That is why you are having such a hard time with this. THAT IS WHY YOU ARE DEFLECTING.

    TRUST ME. Read this thread and others related to this subject. Not just you but all Floyd fans that are taking this bullet for their hero FLoyd is doing it. They will all come back with their own reasons for everything about this IV scandal except this one point. They cannot so they resort to what you are doing.

    So to say, if you had something, you would have let us know every single time someone mentioned the word IV. BUT YOU CANNOT ..... what a struggle! .



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    you can't prove whether Floyd was severely dehydrated, mildly dehydrated, or not at all. Ok, so he was weighed him before that. Scales are not used to measure dehydration.

    so again, you want people to prove your OPINION regarding Floyd's state of dehydration wrong. This is impossible because you haven't proved that he wasn't severely dehydrated.

    Also, facts are not driving your opinion. the only reason you have this opinion is because you wanted Manny to win and he didn't. When you admit that, then we can discuss your opinions.

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    • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
      you can't prove whether Floyd was severely dehydrated, mildly dehydrated, or not at all. Ok, so he was weighed him before that. Scales are not used to measure dehydration.
      Proven by what standard of proof? Quit using words you dont understand. At this stage we are even beyond the reasonable standard. There isn't even reasonable doubt anymore. Given Froids stable weight weeks before the fight, given a doctor hours before checking Froid for dehydration and finding no sign, there is no reasonable explanation for him being dehydrated. Yes it is proven by any common standard of proof that Froid was not dehydrated. At this stage you are at flying spaghetti monster explanations.

      And yes you moron dehydration is defined by loss of body weight. WADA and the medical journals cited by WADA use loss of weight as the official metric.

      Even though the majority of cases of dehydration can be treated via oral consumption, IV treatment of severe dehydration (>7% body weight loss), exertional heat illness, nausea, emesis, or diarrhea, and in those who cannot ingest oral fluids for other reasons, is clinically indicated.2,3,7,23,68 Otherwise, as the American College of Sports Medicine consensus guidelines state, "IV fluids do not provide an advantage over drinking oral fluids and electrolytes."
      So shut the **** up you dumbass.
      Last edited by GTTofAK; 03-07-2016, 02:29 PM.

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      • Originally posted by Zaroku View Post
        Where is the controversy??? The investigation.... PAC has moved on... His fans need years to move on...

        Highly ***********al behavior???? Maybe ???

        F Floyd & Manny & Marquez... Move the **** on..

        You didn't lose... PAC lost...

        Volunteer ... Add meaning to your life... Talk to your wife & kids..
        Like I stated the other day, I can and do a lot of things ..... This just happens to be one of them.

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        • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
          Like I stated the other day, I can and do a lot of things ..... This just happens to be one of them.
          At this point..... I gotta ask... For what purpose...????

          You wife and kids need you more than this crap.

          I am in a cab... headed to a train station. To take me to an Airport, so I can fly to see my bosses and get yelled at....

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          • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
            you can't prove whether Floyd was severely dehydrated, mildly dehydrated, or not at all. Ok, so he was weighed him before that. Scales are not used to measure dehydration.
            so again, you want people to prove your OPINION regarding Floyd's state of dehydration wrong. This is impossible because you haven't proved that he wasn't severely dehydrated.

            Also, facts are not driving your opinion. the only reason you have this opinion is because you wanted Manny to win and he didn't. When you admit that, then we can discuss your opinions.
            Yes you can determine if Floyd was severely dehydrated and since its defined by how much fluids you lose then YES, you can determine this by checking the scales. If they are relatively stable (his weight) then there is no way one can call that severely dehydrated.


            About my comments: Manny beat Bradley but Bradley won officially. I can still discuss that even though they will never change the outcome. Same goes with this fight. Is your concern that they will change this to a NC? I do not care about that. I just want to get your views on this question.

            Either you are ignorant on this matter or just pretending to be. Let me know which one it is ....

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            • Originally posted by GTTofAK View Post
              Proven by what standard of proof? Quit using words you dont understand. At this stage we are even beyond the reasonable standard. There isn't even reasonable doubt anymore. Given Froids stable weight weeks before the fight, given a doctor hours before checking Froid for dehydration and finding no sign, there is no reasonable explanation for him being dehydrated. Yes it is proven by any common standard of proof that Froid was not dehydrated. At this stage you are at flying spaghetti monster explanations.

              And yes you moron dehydration is defined by loss of body weight. WADA and the medical journals cited by WADA use loss of weight as the official metric.



              So shut the **** up you dumbass.
              I posted scales are not used to measure dehydration. You pretended I said losing weight isn't a sign of dehydration and then gave an answer to the question is weight loss a sign of dehydration. When has anyone ever used a scale to determine if you were dehydrated or not?

              Again, you can believe whatever you wish. Just like the rest of the clowns you are using Manny losing to drive your opinion of whether Floyd was dehydrated or not. It is never valid to use the outcome to drive your opinion of things prior to that outcome.

              You haven't met any standard of proof except for those upset with the outcome of the fight.

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              • Originally posted by Zaroku View Post
                At this point..... I gotta ask... For what purpose...????

                You wife and kids need you more than this crap.

                I am in a cab... headed to a train station. To take me to an Airport, so I can fly to see my bosses and get yelled at....
                They are sleeping or in school. They do not need me at the moment.


                Good luck with your boss!

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                • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                  Yes you can determine if Floyd was severely dehydrated and since its defined by how much fluids you lose then YES, you can determine this by checking the scales. If they are relatively stable (his weight) then there is no way one can call that severely dehydrated.


                  About my comments: Manny beat Bradley but Bradley won officially. I can still discuss that even though they will never change the outcome. Same goes with this fight. Is your concern that they will change this to a NC? I do not care about that. I just want to get your views on this question.

                  Either you are ignorant on this matter or just pretending to be. Let me know which one it is ....
                  http://www.lifescript.com/health/bri..._symptoms.aspx

                  Severe dehydration symptoms include:

                  -Not enough urination

                  -Dry, shriveled skin

                  -Irritability or confusion

                  -Dizziness or lightheadedness

                  -Rapid heartbeat

                  -Breathing rapidly

                  -Sunken eyes

                  -Shock (lack of blood flow through the body)

                  -Unconsciousness or delirium


                  Perhaps Floyd's weight was stable. What if he had any of the above symptoms as well ( I am not saying he did). what if he were cramping or had other signs of mild dehydration?

                  My point is you are acting like stable weight ELIMINATES THE POSSIBILITY of severe dehydration when nothing I have seen indicates that is a fact. Manny losing is driving you to make this conclusion, not the information available.

                  Show some honesty. dude. stop acting like you care about Tim. You HATE Floyd and do not give a **** ass about Tim. You didn't spend 5 years hating on tim like you did Floyd.

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                  • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                    They are sleeping or in school. They do not need me at the moment.


                    Good luck with your boss!
                    They will **** on me... For my errors... I will offer no excuses...

                    Provide a revised project plan. With a plan b and c... Let them sign off.. And fire a few guys... This motivates people to keep handling their business..

                    My theory is.... If you gotta stay long hours to do your job... The work structure is wrong... Or you don't know what you are doing....

                    I only care about results... My bosses care more about results... Everyone has a boss...

                    Thanks..

                    I got thick skin at this point...

                    Btw...

                    My bosses would not approve of this dwelling on an old fight crap... Nor sign off on it... It is not productive...

                    Lessons learned... Then move the **** on...

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                    • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                      I posted scales are not used to measure dehydration.
                      And you are ****ing wrong. It is the official measurement of dehydration, % loss of body mass. Everything else is a sign.

                      When has anyone ever used a scale to determine if you were dehydrated or not?
                      Its used all over the country now in high-school wresting. Preseason wrestlers are given a floor they can drop weight too based on their physical capping the amount they can dehydrate themselves to make weight. If a wrestler weighs in under that weight they are not allowed to wrestle.

                      Serious dumb **** you dont ****ing know anything. You need to accept that you are ******.

                      You haven't met any standard of proof except for those upset with the outcome of the fight.
                      Mother ****er your dumbass doesn't even know what standard of proof means. You are right now in flying spaghetti monster standard of proof territory. There is no reasonable explanation for Froid being dehydrated or evidence. There is as much supporting evidence for Froid being dehydrated as there is for a flying spaghetti monster creating the universe.
                      Last edited by GTTofAK; 03-07-2016, 03:00 PM.

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