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  • HeroBando
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    #41
    Originally posted by about.thousands
    After trying to fight a retired Froch while saying the Ward fight was impossible because he's inactive. They also said They couldn't fight Ward because he was suing his promoter. But at the same time they were trying to fight Chavez Jr while he was being sued by his promoter. And like I posted before, they didn't even want a CW with Chavez Jr.




    And Tom is lying about Chavez Jr being available because this was after TR had filed a lawsuit against Chavez Jr


    Chavez got sued by TR mid august. By that time the Ggg negotiations already collapsed
    You're doing a lot of lying on this thread. It's sad cause you've apparently spent some time pulling up those tweets

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    • bug0092
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      #42
      Originally posted by about.thousands
      How do I not know the story when I posted the ORIGINAL ARTICLE boxingscene used to write their article? Why do you keep referencing the article as proof GGG said Ward turned down the fight when Tom himself said GGG didn't say that?
      I posted the link to the original article that kafkod was referring to. Never disputed by anyone...not HBO, not Loeffler, not Ward. You're ORIGINAL ARTICLE is a subsequent article that contained false quotes. They were removed. Go to the article now and find the section where GGG says Ward turned down the fight 3 times. Let me know when you find 'em. I'll wait....

      To make it easy for you, once again here's the link to the true original article...

      By Rick Reeno is a week away from his scheduled return. Ward, who's been out of the ring since November 2013, During Ward's period of inactivity, his name was consistently linked to several potential fights. One of those potential fights would come against WBA/IBO middleweight champion Gennady "GGG" Golovkin (33-0, 30KOs). In an interview conducted last year, Golovkin's trainer Abel Sanchez said his boxer was willing to fight any notable name from junior middleweight to super middleweight. In a direct response to that interview, Ward raised his hand and said he was ready to fight Golovkin. At that time, Golovkin's handlers had legitimate concerns because Ward had an ongoing legal battle with his former promoter. That legal issue has long been resolved. During several recent interviews with Golovkin and members of his team, Ward's name has once again been raised for a potential fight. Golovkin's promoter, Tom Loeffler of K2, is receptive to the idea of fighting Ward but believes they need additional time to build it up into a pay-per-view attraction. Ward does not agree with Loeffler's response and views it as another excuse to avoid the fight - noting that Golovkin has attempted to face two different super middleweights, Carl Froch and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr., in the last twelve months. Both Chavez and Froch are physically bigger than Ward.


      If you'd prefer to read it in Golovkin's native language...

      http://allboxing.ru/news/20150615-22...a-soboy-smotri

      And here's the article you're mistakenly claiming kafkod is referencing that you claim says "Ward turned the fight down 3 times"...

      Gennady Golovkin isn't fussy about who he fights next. He's not bothered about embarking on a weight-loss regime to move down a division or piling on the pounds to move up.He just wants a fight. The Kazakh destroyer hasn't had many recently. Not that he hasn't been in the ring – it's just that Golovkin's [...]

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      • HeroBando
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        #43
        Originally posted by about.thousands
        Froch beat Groves for the second time in May 2014. Look at the dates of those tweets.
        You're saying he retired 3 months later? You'd be wrong (as usual), look it up

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          #44
          Originally posted by about.thousands
          The tweet was in response to an article where Tom stated nobody beats GGG at MW and the tweeter was saying Ward could beat GGG at MW and Tom's response was Ward is a SMW. Read everything not just what you want to read.
          And that disproves my point how exactly? Was Ward going to fight GGG at MW? Of course not, he was a SMW at the time just as Tom pointed out. You're trying to imply that Loeffler's tweet is in response to a question like "why are you guys not trying to fight Ward?" You're carpetbombing with a load of crap so far in this thread. Go eat a Snickers and come back later.

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            #45
            Originally posted by HeroBando
            Chavez got sued by TR mid august. By that time the Ggg negotiations already collapsed
            You're doing a lot of lying on this thread. It's sad cause you've apparently spent some time pulling up those tweets
            August 15, 2014 Top Rank files lawsuit against Chavez Jr.
            http://www.thesweetscience.com/forum...le-In-Jeopardy

            August 19, 2014 is the date Tom sent that tweet.

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              #46
              Originally posted by about.thousands
              How do I not know the story when I posted the ORIGINAL ARTICLE boxingscene used to write their article? Why do you keep referencing the article as proof GGG said Ward turned down the fight when Tom himself said GGG didn't say that?
              You have no idea what you are posting. The ORIGINAL article is this one, from June 15th

              http://allboxing.ru/news/20150615-22...a-soboy-smotri

              Which was partly translated by badlefthook a day later:

              Gennady wasn’t too happy to hear Ward saying that he’s making excuses to avoid a fight, and Gennady fires back in epic proportion.


              In this article GGG never even said Ward turned down the fight THREE times, but he turned down the fight when it was offered to Ward and GGG by HBO. Fact is Ward turned down the GGG fight which was offered to him by HBO at 168. The "three" is just from your strange source which is a lie and which Loeffler stated.

              The twitter comment by Tom who says Ward is a Supermiddle was just a general answer, obvious fact to some random guy who said "Ward beats everyone at MW".

              You are seriously reaching and get your timeline confused and try to make GGG look bad by posting false info. You are spreading a whole lot of bollocks.

              Just stop it.

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              • HeroBando
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                #47
                Originally posted by about.thousands
                August 15, 2014 Top Rank files lawsuit against Chavez Jr.
                http://www.thesweetscience.com/forum...le-In-Jeopardy

                August 19, 2014 is the date Tom sent that tweet.
                Loeffler is using past tense in that tweet, dummy. When did they negotiate for the Ggg fight, let me know please

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                • about.thousands
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by HeroBando
                  You might wanna check the dates on those articles, you got the timeline all wrong. Tom in fact reiterated that Ggg accepted when HBO proposed the fight, and Ward passed, per article in Russian. He denied that Ward passed 3x per that UK article

                  Where did Loeffler say Ward rejected a fight with GGG? The only thing I can find is Loeffler saying GGG didn't say Ward ducked him and Loeffler explaining why he turned down the Ward fight.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by HeroBando
                    You're saying he retired 3 months later? You'd be wrong (as usual), look it up
                    When was his last fight?

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by HeroBando
                      Loeffler is using past tense in that tweet, dummy. When did they negotiate for the Ggg fight, let me know please
                      That guy literally invested hours to search some old tweets from Loeffler and tries to mix them around to his fittings, posts some random articles as "original" source to make GGG look bad. That's just disgusting.

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