Comments Thread For: Abel Sanchez Not Viewing Andre Ward's Inactivity as Advantage

[aboutfkntime]

I originally responded to this video you posted as proof of Ward dis*****g the HBO meeting Golovkin mentions in his Russian interview. IT DOESN"T. You failed.

Recent quotes supposedly from GGG are false, he never said Ward turned down a fight 3 times and never said Ward changed weight in Amateurs

— Tom Loeffler (@TomLoeffler1) July 4, 2015

The video proved that Ward is genuine, and that Team Hypekin are not.

Ward's engaged more in social media bickering the past two years than he's engaged in the ring. If he has a problem with GGG and wants to hold him responsible for everything his team says, he should tell Golovkin personally to STFU instead of his promoter.

Watch the entire video, I mean actually watch it, with the sound turned on.

Hear Ward's comments regarding James Prince and Roc Nation ?

FACT: An adult human being is 100% responsible for the words/actions of their OFFICIAL representatives.

So..... you're right, Ward should tell Golovkin to control his people.

Your problem is, Golovkin has clearly been happily along for the ride..... just like Pacquiao was with Arum's bull****.

Team Bull**** just need to keep it real..... it looks like they may have started doing so now that the situation reflects badly on Gennady, so I hope that trend continues.

[aboutfkntime]

I never called Ward a coward for refusing a 164 catchweight demand.

That is exactly what you did.

Here is the thread, to prove that you were discussing Ward.....

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=15995401#post15995401

And here is the abbreviated quote.....

Any boxer who publicly called out a smaller man..... then refused to even discuss a CW, would be viewed as a cherry picking coward.

That is exactly what you did !!

[aboutfkntime]

Was GGG not told by the IBF that he had to fight Wade or be stripped of his title?

Did Monroe, Rosado, Rubio and Stevens try to fight Golovkin at 168 lbs?

Did any of them ask for 50% of the purse for fighting him?

What are you talking about ?

I said this.....

Suggesting that Ward hasn't put it the work is a ridiculous thing to say.
Absurd !!
Did Wade? Did Monroe? Did Rosado? Did Rubio? Did Stevens?


Answer the question..... Did Wade, Monroe, Rosado, Rubio, Stevens..... "put it the work" to earn a Golovkin fight?

Did they put in the body-of-work that Ward has, or even close ?

If you were an honest person, and a genuine boxing fan, you would not have replied to that post

[aboutfkntime]

My son "avoiding" his homework says something different about his character than my "avoiding" a pile of dog**** says about mine. One would also be correct to say Ward's been "avoiding" the inside of a boxing ring the past couple of years.

Wade, Monroe, Rubio, Stevens, etc are middleweights who were active and didn't ask for much more than their worth to fight GGG. In the meantime, Golovkin was chasing fights with Martinez, Cotto, Quillen...you know "champs" in his own division who ducked him.

GGG has had absolutely no incentive to fight Ward for the past couple of years because Ward's been INACTIVE. Instead of getting back in the ring and pressing for the GGG fight, Ward sat out. He's faced one pathetic opponent in a lone tune up in the past two years!!! (FACT) Is that what you'd call "putting in the work?". He then sends GGG an offer after Golovin's already signed up for the Lemieux fight with the Canelo/Cotto winner in the wings. Would you have taken that offer if you were GGG?...

The truth is Ward had plenty of fights he could've made the past couple of years to stay active at SMW and rebuild his name. He didn't. If he'd been busy like GGG's team had asked, he could've called their bluff and you'd have a solid argument that GGG is "avoiding" the fight as you imply. In fact, if that were the case, I'd actually say Golovkin ducked him. But he didn't, so you don't.

The bold, is fanboy bull****..... I won't waste my time replying to that post.

But I agree with your earlier comment that Golovkin avoided Ward.

[sirron000]

I never called Ward a coward for refusing a 164 catchweight demand.

I posted a comment in response to you saying Ward should get up in the ring at the Cotto/Canelo show and publicly challenge GGG to move up to 168 and fight him.

You jumped on it and quoted it out of context to make it seem like I was calling him a coward.

Then you have the nerve to tell me to keep it real!

And GGG did not do the exact same thing with Canelo. I must have pointed out to you a dozen times that Golovkin was not trying to defend a SMW title against Ward at 1lb above the MW limit, so the 2 situations are in no way comparable.

Golovkin being Canelo's mandatory challenger makes the comparison even more absurd.

That is exactly what you did.

Here is the thread, to prove that you were discussing Ward.....

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=15995401#post15995401

And here is the abbreviated quote.....




That is exactly what you did !!

Bwaaaaaaaaaa,

Kafturd just got flushed...

[bug0092]

Recent quotes supposedly from GGG are false, he never said Ward turned down a fight 3 times and never said Ward changed weight in Amateurs

— Tom Loeffler (@TomLoeffler1) July 4, 2015

The video proved that Ward is genuine, and that Team Hypekin are not.




Watch the entire video, I mean actually watch it, with the sound turned on.

Hear Ward's comments regarding James Prince and Roc Nation ?

FACT: An adult human being is 100% responsible for the words/actions of their OFFICIAL representatives.

So..... you're right, Ward should tell Golovkin to control his people.

Your problem is, Golovkin has clearly been happily along for the ride..... just like Pacquiao was with Arum's bull****.

Team Bull**** just need to keep it real..... it looks like they may have started doing so now that the situation reflects badly on Gennady, so I hope that trend continues.

First of all, the Loeffler tweet you posted above is irrelevant. The relevant one’s been reposted in this thread several times. It confirms the HBO meeting GGG was talking about in the original Russian interview. Your Ward video disputes NOTHING IN THAT ORIGINAL INTERVIEW. The original GGG comment isn’t even that disparaging to Ward. Golovkin said he was ready to fight. Ward said he wasn’t. It’s not that Ward didn’t want the fight. It’s that Golovkin did. Get it straight. Read the damn interview again. I have no doubt Ward would be more than happy to take a GGG fight on his terms.

Your portrayal of GGG as some sort of rube here is misguided. Maybe it's a combination of his boyish face and his struggle with the language. He seems pretty articulate in his native tongue. Maybe he should use his Russian and speak for himself more often? If Ward’s holding GGG responsible for any perceived slights from his team, he should talk to GGG personally. It’s possible GGG’s team have marketed Golovkin as a likable personality and they let Abel do the trash talking for him? Maybe it’s because his English isn’t very good? Personally, I’d rather see GGG speak more fluently and freely through a translator to tell everyone how he really feels. Love or hate Kovalev, you always know what he really thinks.

As for the team bull**** comment, your entitled to your opinion, but I think they/ve done pretty well by him. I don't see anything wrong with how Loeffler's handled things or anything he's actually said in the media. As for Sanchez, he's a trainer who's got a mouth and confidence in his fighter, so what? Point me to a single confirmed lie. I want a quote that contradicts a known, provable truth or fact, not conjecture based on your personal bias to suit your anti-GGG agenda. And please, no holding GGG's team to standards no other fighter is held to in all of boxing.

[bug0092]

Bwaaaaaaaaaa,

Kafturd just got flushed...

here's the complete text of the post by kafkod...

Originally Posted by Jayallday9 View Post
Andre should just go ahead and take the opportunity to fight in front of a large crowd like he has done before, put on a great performance like he has done before and then call out triple G in front of everyone.. I'm willing to bet if he puts on a dominating performance triple G fans will run and scream for Kovalev to save him.

Any boxer who publicly called out a smaller man, one or maybe 2 divisions below him, in front of a boxing crowd, then refused to even discuss a CW, would be viewed as a cherry picking coward.

If Ward wants to impress the MSG crowd, he should call out Kovalev, not GGG.

Completely true. Unless he's a heavy or cruiser, a champ calling out a guy 10-15lbs smaller with no catchweight is beyond ridiculous. Imagine GGG calling out Thurman, Garcia, or Brook to come up and fight him at MW. What am I missing here?...

[bug0092]

The bold, is fanboy bull****..... I won't waste my time replying to that post.

But I agree with your earlier comment that Golovkin avoided Ward.

Your real problem when it comes to debating me is that you, like your boy Ward, just haven't put in the work. Maybe you should schedule a few tune ups first, then come back when you're ready?

[Jubei]

Your real problem when it comes to debating me is that you, like your boy Ward, just haven't put in the work. Maybe you should schedule a few tune ups first, then come back when you're ready?

I guess it's just best to put desperate haters like that on ignore. People who keep posting false info and as soon they get exposed they ignore you and move to another thread are not worth the time. And people like him are just not smart enough to realize they made a mistake. Like a stubborn kid whose candies got stolen.

[Sweet_Science2]

In both those videos Sanchez is talking about Ward not being realistic about the money he would get for fighting GGG due his poor viewing figures.

In the second one he says that Ward hasn't done enough to warrent the demads he would be making and that he needs to accept that, at this moment GGG is the A fighter, and negotiate with Loeffler from there.

Clearly, he is talking about Ward's poor current drawing power, not his fighting ability or past achievements.

What he said about Ward's inactivity not being a factor against Barrera does not contradict that at all.

Stop defending them. Get their dyck out your mouth. Now this is a very simple. Who in the fuuck on lil g's current resume has more drawing power than Ward from 2013 until now???

I'LL WAIT! They had no problem facing bum after bum! The money would have got made period... We all know Ward beats the dog shyt out of lil g that's why the promoter and his bytch ass fans don't want to see this fight