Comments Thread For: Abel Sanchez Not Viewing Andre Ward's Inactivity as Advantage

[bug0092]

Ward will beat Barerra, and go on to beat Kovelev in a competitive fight. He would have beaten the dog**** out of GGG. Kovelev is a better fighter than GGG. Kovelev is bigger, stronger, (maybe faster), and has a better resume than GGG. SO, why are people even concerned with a Ward vs. GGG fight when its apparent that its not going to happen; Ward has moved on to bigger and better things (i.e., Kovelev). And before you turds start with the whole "if he actually fights Kovelev", because there is nothing to suggest that Ward ducks hard fights.

Ward is the truth.

Kovalev's a very good boxer, but he's not as technically accomplished as Golovkin. Footwork, defense, punch placement, timing, jab, balance. Kovalev's close in some areas not so close in others. GGG is not an easy fight for anybody including Ward who'd have a significant size advantage. Glad you're confident with your guy. I hope you let it all ride with him. We will see.

[Jubei]

When was his last fight?

Stop ignoring all the other posts in this thread that proves you are a liar. You keep holding on to the last remaining straw that didnt get debunked yet? You are a disgusting human being trying to post false info and mix some old tweets around. Maybe you are just confused and didn't mean it, but it makes the impression you are just one desperate hater.

[kafkod]

So we go back to my original question. What does Ward's activity/inactivity have to do with the fight being made? They're justifying Hopkins being a better opponent because he's been more active than Ward but by the time the fight would be made Hopkins would've fought once in two years and Ward would've fought twice in one year. Ward is clearly more active.

This is getting crazier and crazier.

You are trying to compare GGG/Ward, which didn't get made in 2013 and 2015, with GGG/BHop, which MIGHT get made later this year, as if they were both on the table for Loeffler right now.

You are also forgetting that Loeffler isn't an HBO matchmaker, he's GGG's promoter. Promoters don't rate possible opponents for their fighters based on who is going to be the toughest challenge, they rate them on risk and reward - who brings the most money with the least chance of winning.

Looking at it like that, it's easy to see why Ward's inactivity over the last 3/4 years made him less attractive than BHop, who has been involved in high profile world title fights during that same period and would bring more viewers and money to the table than Ward would have brought.

[about.thousands]

You have no idea what you are posting. The ORIGINAL article is this one, from June 15th

http://allboxing.ru/news/20150615-2239/gennadiy-golovkin-uord-hvatit-boltat-za-soboy-smotri

Which was partly translated by badlefthook a day later:

http://www.badlefthook.com/2015/6/16/8788845/gennady-golovkin-blasts-andre-ward

In this article GGG never even said Ward turned down the fight THREE times, but he turned down the fight when it was offered to Ward and GGG by HBO. Fact is Ward turned down the GGG fight which was offered to him by HBO at 168. The "three" is just from your strange source which is a lie and which Loeffler stated.

The twitter comment by Tom who says Ward is a Supermiddle was just a general answer, obvious fact to some random guy who said "Ward beats everyone at MW".

You are seriously reaching and get your timeline confused and try to make GGG look bad by posting false info. You are spreading a whole lot of bollocks.

Just stop it.

Nobody ever confirmed GGG wrote that in that Russian article. That site is known for trash. It's like the Daily Mail but worse. Show me where Loeffler said GGG turned down a fight at the HBO headquarters. Back in 2014 when Ward was talking about fighting GGG nobody from GGG even mentioned Ward turning down a fight with GGG. They talked about who was a bigger draw. No mention whatsoever about a meeting with HBO. That HBO meeting hasn't been confirmed by anybody, not even Loeffler. Show me one statement from Loeffler, GGG, or Sanchez saying Ward turned down the fight in HBO's offices.

http://goo.gl/7ukcMD

[about.thousands]

You might wanna check the dates on those articles, you got the timeline all wrong. Tom in fact reiterated that Ggg accepted when HBO proposed the fight, and Ward passed, per article in Russian. He denied that Ward passed 3x per that UK article

Have you found the article/video of Tom saying Ward passed on a GGG fight at HBO three times, yet?

[about.thousands]

Loeffler is using past tense in that tweet, dummy. When did they negotiate for the Ggg fight, let me know please

How is he using past tense when he said at THIS time? THIS TIME was 5 days after the news broke that TR was suing Chavez Jr.

[about.thousands]

This is getting crazier and crazier.

You are trying to compare GGG/Ward, which didn't get made in 2013 and 2015, with GGG/BHop, which MIGHT get made later this year, as if they were both on the table for Loeffler right now.

You are also forgetting that Loeffler isn't an HBO matchmaker, he's GGG's promoter. Promoters don't rate possible opponents for their fighters based on who is going to be the toughest challenge, they rate them on risk and reward - who brings the most money with the least chance of winning.

Looking at it like that, it's easy to see why Ward's inactivity over the last 3/4 years made him less attractive than BHop, who has been involved in high profile world title fights during that same period and would bring more viewers and money to the table than Ward would have brought.

So what was their excuse for not making the fight in 2014? You can't say it was because Ward was having promoter issues because Chavez Jr was having promoter issues and they were still trying to make a fight with him

http://goo.gl/7ukcMD

[doom_specialist]

But when he was active they still didn't want to make the fight because Ward was a SMW. Not because Ward wasn't a draw. Tom said the fight couldn't be made because Ward was one division higher. Later they were willing to make the Froch fight and the Chavez Jr fight one division higher. That's when they started saying the reason the Ward fight couldn't be made is because he's not a draw. Him not being a draw wasn't a reason while he was active.

@Ghostxl @fighthype @gggboxing Ward is supermiddleweight

— Tom Loeffler (@TomLoeffler1) August 16, 2013

You should create a separate thread with a timeline to show how events transpired. You seem to have followed their ongoings pretty closely. Kudos to that.

[about.thousands]

You should create a separate thread with a timeline to show how events transpired. You seem to have followed their ongoings pretty closely. Kudos to that.

Tom and Abel have fed so much BS to these people they'll believe anything. I usually try to stay out of the GGG-Ward discussion because I know GGG fans won't look at the facts right in front of their face. But notice how they ignored other instances of Tom lying or telling half truths that don't relate to Ward. It's really a waste of time and I was wasting time until I had to leave

[about.thousands]

You might wanna check the dates on those articles, you got the timeline all wrong. Tom in fact reiterated that Ggg accepted when HBO proposed the fight, and Ward passed, per article in Russian. He denied that Ward passed 3x per that UK article

I gotta make a run but when I get back I expect that article/video of Loeffler saying Ward turned down the fight at HBO headquarters.