Comments Thread For: Abel Sanchez Not Viewing Andre Ward's Inactivity as Advantage

[sirron000]

Stop reaching.

There were no offers made to Ward because he had already said he needed a couple of tune-ups first and HBO had already told K2 and Roc that GGG/Ward would not be a PPV fight at that point so there wouldn't be enough money to fund it.

Who's really reaching? Stop repeating what you read on here, Baby G and team made comment about 154-168 since '13. Baby G just said a few months ago on Sports Nation when Kellerman ask him about fighting Ward he said only at 164...

[about.thousands]

Are you tripping or what?

When did I say Ward had turned down the fight 3 times?

On the first page you said Ward turned down the fight in 2013. That rumor came from the article that GGG was quoted as saying Ward turned down the fight 3 times. Tom said that was false and GGG never said Ward turned down the fight 3 times.

This is the article you were referencing

http://www.cityam.com/219426/gennady-golovkin-interview-mayweather-or-froch-would-be-best-next-fightward-turned-down-fight

[kafkod]

Tom said the reason they wouldn't want Ward is because Ward wanted a tune up. That was over a year ago. He'd already have his tune up by now and the fight could've been made.

@DaRealDULLAH @EliasWallace @M_RagingBabe @jethang Ward wants tune up, Cotto= No, trust me we've tried

— Tom Loeffler (@TomLoeffler1) March 1, 2015

Now you are just putting up a smoke-screen.

Sanchez and Loeffler have never said that Ward didn't deserve a fight with GGG because he'd been inactive and they couldn't have made the fight while he was inactive.

[about.thousands]

Now you are just putting up a smoke-screen.

Sanchez and Loeffler have never said that Ward didn't deserve a fight with GGG because he'd been inactive and they couldn't have made the fight while he was inactive.

But when he was active they still didn't want to make the fight because Ward was a SMW. Not because Ward wasn't a draw. Tom said the fight couldn't be made because Ward was one division higher. Later they were willing to make the Froch fight and the Chavez Jr fight one division higher. That's when they started saying the reason the Ward fight couldn't be made is because he's not a draw. Him not being a draw wasn't a reason while he was active.

@Ghostxl @fighthype @gggboxing Ward is supermiddleweight

— Tom Loeffler (@TomLoeffler1) August 16, 2013

[kafkod]

On the first page you said Ward turned down the fight in 2013. That rumor came from the article that GGG was quoted as saying Ward turned down the fight 3 times. Tom said that was false and GGG never said Ward turned down the fight 3 times.

I've never mentioned or even read any article with GGG saying Ward had turned down the fight 3 times. I don't believe that article even exists outside your imagination.

Don't accuse me of saying something I didn't say because of some imaginary article in your head.

You're going to be telling me I wrote the damned thing next.

[about.thousands]

No he didn't say they would pick Hopkins over Ward.

The option to pick Ward wasn't even there any more as Andre had already signed a contract with HBO to fight at 175.

All Loeffler said was that BHop would be a better opponent than Ward because he had been more active.

So we go back to my original question. What does Ward's activity/inactivity have to do with the fight being made? They're justifying Hopkins being a better opponent because he's been more active than Ward but by the time the fight would be made Hopkins would've fought once in two years and Ward would've fought twice in one year. Ward is clearly more active.

[j0zef]

Let me guess you just started following boxing. Sanchez and the rest of this horrible team kept stating that Ward didn't deserve a fight with Baby G because he has been inactive too long. So why turn around and say his inactivity is not a disadvantage? When at first you used it as an EXCUSE so Ward wouldn't put them "paws" on him.

Inactivity has two consequences - ring rust or drop in popularity.

They're saying inactivity is not a disadvantage for the Barrera fight because they don't expect him to be rusty.

And they didn't want to make GGG/Ward because of Ward's lack of popularity (among other issues) due to inactivity. Barrera's an unknown, so they have no problems putting them together.

[about.thousands]

I've never mentioned or even read any article with GGG saying Ward had turned down the fight 3 times. I don't believe that article even exists outside your imagination.

Don't accuse me of saying something I didn't say because of some imaginary article in your head.

You're going to be telling me I wrote the damned thing next.

So where did you get the idea Ward had turned down a fight at all? Tom said Ward never turned down a fight. Are you just making stuff up?

It was an issue because, back in 2013, when Ward was asked by HBO if he was ready to fight Golovkin, he replied that he wasn't ready, because of various problems he'd been having.

You can't fight an inactive boxer, FFS!

Recent quotes supposedly from GGG are false, he never said Ward turned down a fight 3 times and never said Ward changed weight in Amateurs

— Tom Loeffler (@TomLoeffler1) July 4, 2015

ZERO Discussions 4 a Ward fight, but funny to see Floyd/Cotto fan reactions when CW and A side linked to #GGG, Not Allowed, #GotEm #157 #152

— Tom Loeffler (@TomLoeffler1) July 11, 2015

[about.thousands]

It was an issue because, back in 2013, when Ward was asked by HBO if he was ready to fight Golovkin, he replied that he wasn't ready, because of various problems he'd been having.

You can't fight an inactive boxer, FFS!

So why were they trying to fight a retired Froch?

“@bigfella7777: @TomLoeffler1 @EddieHearn WHENS GGG GOING TO FIGHT SUM 1 WI A PULSE TOM? When U going to ask Eddie to make the Froch fight?

— Tom Loeffler (@TomLoeffler1) August 26, 2014

“@****ingbricktop: @Studhardt22 @AlBernstein @Carl_Froch @EddieHearn listen @TomLoeffler1 int puttin @gggboxing near froch" GGG/Froch In UK👍

— Tom Loeffler (@TomLoeffler1) August 31, 2014

Absolutely, better question is whether Carl Froch or Andy Lee will fight @GGGBoxing in the UK https://t.co/e3rQPVDphv

— Tom Loeffler (@TomLoeffler1) April 26, 2015

New @BoxingNewsED cover featuring @GGGBoxing perfect timing to talk about a fight with @Carl_Froch in UK @EddieHearn pic.twitter.com/q9jptS4U8D

— Tom Loeffler (@TomLoeffler1) May 21, 2015

[about.thousands]

And back in 2013 while Ward was still active Tom was saying the reason the Ward fight won't happen is because Ward is a SMW. But they were willing to fight Chavez Jr at any weight

@DominicVerdin66 @hboboxing @gggboxing would fight Chavez at any weight he wanted no catch weight necessary

— Tom Loeffler (@TomLoeffler1) August 13, 2013

@stevemaxboxing @berniebahrmasel @latimespugmire @bobarum If GGG looks good in Nov we should make the fight w Chavez-Bob can pick the weight

— Tom Loeffler (@TomLoeffler1) August 29, 2013