Comments Thread For: Loeffler: We Expect Canelo To Defend Against Golovkin

[crex.af]

Cotto beat Geale faster than GGG....GGG is 34...you're not too good with facts are you?

If they strip Canelo, they get one big step closer to unification. Unification means that anyone who rises at MW will have to face Golovkin. How hard is it for people to see the value in unification? While the Canelo payday would be nice, GGG doesn't NEED the $$$. At this point Canelo refusing to defend his belt at the division weight limit against his mandatory is a clear duck. Take his belt and make him look like a chicken**** and if he's fine not fighting for a title for as long as GGG's champ then so be it. Lara is irrelevant until he steps up and does something at MW (Hello, Danny Jacobs). Never mind the fact that he's barely fought, but Ward hasn't made 168 in years and would outweigh GGG by at least 10lbs in the ring at this point but in some people's eyes Golovkin should take that fight completely on Ward's terms.

To clarify...Canelo who holds the lineal MW title, is mandated by the WBC to fight GGG at MW and normally enters the ring heavier than GGG asks for GGG to come down to 155 at a 90/10 split. GGG says "no thanks"...While Ward's barely gotten in the ring the past few years, can't sell out his hometown, last fought on BET in front of 300k has since moved up to LHW because he can't make 168 easily. He wanted GGG to make a yearlong commitment, take a big weight disadvantage, and give him an even 50/50 split. These sound like good deals to you? Or even acceptable ones?

I think these are both great fights and would love to see them, but if you can't understand why these are nonstarters for GGG, you're just a hater whose emotions are getting the best of your logical side. Why not say what most of the haters really mean - you want to see GGG at such a disadvantage that you think he stands the greatest chance of losing? I'll admit I'm a fan of GGG (I like Canelo and Ward, too) and that some of the fanboyism out there can be pretty obnoxious, but the overreaction in the opposite direction is just getting to be ridiculous. If he decides to take the risk, fine, but to expect him to bend over for everyone when he doesn't have to is a standard no other fighter is asked to live up to.

Ultimately, Golovkin's going to be around for at least another 4 years. We'll see where it all shakes out. That's at least 10 more fights to get names on his resume. I'm not happy that he's fighting Wade next either but I see the value in unification. If at this time next year, he's not fought a Jacobs, Lara, Canelo, Degale, even Ward etc..maybe i'll be done with it. But, as of now, I have a feeling he'll end up closer to ATG status than HYPEJOB.

Very good comment sir I would agree with you. Boxing does make crazy fans but like you stated it gets to the point of being subjective and obnoxious.

[The plunger man]

Then stop whining toilet-man.

If 155 is middleweight, according to you, then Hypekin can fight Canelo at "middleweight"..... right?

155 it is then ^^

Canelo can weigh what he wants bongo.....I have no problem with that...golovkin is a middleweight so he can weigh 159.9 .......nao problemo palahaso

[aboutfkntime]

Not according to the WBC it isn't, and they would be sanctioning the fight, not you or Canelo.

golovtards, when discussing Canelo :

" 155 is middleweight "

golovtards, when discussing catchweights :

" 155 is NOT middleweight "

[aboutfkntime]

Maybe, maybe not. But he's never fought that low in his career before, so it would be a real gamble against an opponent as big and strong as Canelo.

Then Team Hypekin should stop talking ****.

Two months ago, they stated that they can beat " anyone at 154 ".

Your boy should stop writing chq's with his mouth that his ass can't cash.

Either..... they need to stop talking ****, or you fans need to develop some love and integrity for the sport and start calling them out on their bull****.

[bug0092]

For all the confused (and pretending to be confused) out there who want to get into semantics...For title purposes, middleweight is a weight limit NOT a weight or a weight range. For classification purposes, MW is greater than 154 and less than or equal to 160. Either way, a mandatory title defense of the WBC MW belt is only required to be contested at the weight LIMIT of 160 -- i.e. neither fighter shall weigh greater than 160lbs at the weigh in.

So, as for Canelo, at 155 he is by classification a middleweight. But, he holds the WBC MW title and has a mandatory defense at the MW LIMIT of 160. Unfortunately for Canelo 155 is NOT the MW weight limit.

[kafkod]

golovtards, when discussing Canelo :

" 155 is middleweight "

golovtards, when discussing catchweights :

" 155 is NOT middleweight "

MW is over 154, up to and including 160.

[kafkod]

Then Team Hypekin should stop talking ****.

Two months ago, they stated that they can beat " anyone at 154 ".

Your boy should stop writing chq's with his mouth that his ass can't cash.

Either..... they need to stop talking ****, or you fans need to develop some love and integrity for the sport and start calling them out on their bull****.

Ward said he could beat the Klit bros and would be HW champ by the age of 32, so maybe you should be calling him out on his bullshit too?

[Bronx2245]

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Thank you for investing the time to explain this situation to casual fans who have little understanding or feel for the game.

Their opinion regarding catchweights is correct imho, they should be completely abolished..... but those casual fanboy ****s will not get the opportunity to demand that catchweights are abolished TODAY, simply because it suits their guy.

Most of that fanbase happily accepted manny-weight for the last 7 years, and none of them objected to the catchweight demand on Ward.

You provided a great example of a guy who is prepared to back up his words with action, unlike Team Hypekin.

Great post, as usual.

Thank you sir!

[Bronx2245]

Kel brook has only defended twice due to taking a long break after getting his leg ripped open.

Chocalatito is a flyweight! But he is still making more money as a world champion than he would have made otherwise.

Cotto is the worst example you could pick if you want to prove that belts mean nothing.

Do you think he would be an idol to PR boxing fans if he hadn't held world titles in 4 different divisions?

If the WBC belt didn't mean anything would he have paid Geale to fight him for it at a catchweight and given GGG nearly a $million step-aside to still be holding that belt while negotiating the purse with Canelo?

The reason Oscar is suing Roc and Cotto right now is that Miguel got a bigger slice of that purse, not because he was Miguel Cotto, but because he was holding the WBC belt during those negotiations.

GGG is in the same division as Canelo, Jacobs, Quillin, BJS and Eubank Jr. You can bet your life that being the WBC champ as well as the WBA and IBF would bring him a lot more money than he would gotten otherwise for fighting any of them.

You're blinded by your obsession with GGG, and that's sad! Do you think Oscar needed B-Hop, or was it the other way around? Do you think Oscar needed Mayweather, or was it the other way around? C'mon son!

[kafkod]

You're blinded by your obsession with GGG, and that's sad! Do you think Oscar needed B-Hop, or was it the other way around? Do you think Oscar needed Mayweather, or was it the other way around? C'mon son!

Yeah right, I'm obsessed. I'm also done trying to talk sense into your ****** head.