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  • Bronx2245
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    #101
    Originally posted by HeroBando
    Why did Canelo take the challenger purse vs Cotto if he didn't care about the belt? Why didn't he drop it on the spot, and why is he holding it still? Anyway, Loeffler said they'll consider a CW, but not while the phony is wearing the belt.

    You do realize Canelo demand is 10x worse than Oscars, right? As I said, all time most pathetic CW demand
    You do realize B-Hop came in @ 156, that's 155 + 1, and whooped "The Golden Boy." That's what happens when you have confidence in your abilities. That's what champions do!

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    • Bronx2245
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      #102
      Originally posted by j0zef
      Canelo's last 4 fights have been at MW. 155 is not a division.

      And you don't make fighters almost 10 years older than you drain down. You move up, especially when you're in your mid 20s.

      Stop the excuses. I lived in the bronx for most of my life and you're embarassing me.
      I don't want to be an embarrassment to you my brother. Please educate me. Which of the last 4 Canelo fights were @ 160?

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      • Deevel916
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        #103
        Originally posted by Johnny_Roa
        it's not fanboyism for Canelo, it's hate against GGG really what causes it.

        Why?

        GGG claimed he'd fight anyone from 154 to 168.

        Then suddenly he wont fight Ward at 168, he'll fight him at 164.

        And then, he won't fight Canelo at 155, only at 160, even though Canelo won't budge and it's the biggest payday for Golovkin. They're obviously too much afraid of GOlovkin losing that 0.
        U do know GGG never said that right? It was Abel Sanchez who said it. What Abel did say was that he'll move up for the right fight which at the time was vs Froch or Chavez jr due to them being big money fights. At that time Ward was just coming out of his temporary retirement and when asked about a fight with GGG stated ...."I'll fight GGG sometime next year after 2-3 tuneups".

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          #104
          Originally posted by Bronx2245
          I don't want to be an embarrassment to you my brother. Please educate me. Which of the last 4 Canelo fights were @ 160?
          155 lbs is a weight.
          It falls in the MW division in boxing, which spans between 154.0001 and 160.0000 lbs.

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            #105
            Originally posted by hitking
            GGG's fans are just all over the place. When Ward was on his ass, they talked about how small a middleweight GGG was. And they used the "fact" that he was willing to go down to 154 to fight Floyd as proof. Now, Canelo is willing to fight him at 155. And all of a sudden, asking GGG to come down a pound north of where he was willing to fight Floyd is asking him to push his body to limita that it may not be able to recover from. Which one is it, cause I'm confused.
            Golovkin's never struggled to make 160. Check out his weigh ins as he's approached his last 10 fights. He's a natural MW. Ward would have a huge size advantage if they fought. The truth is you want to see GGG bend over and give Ward a huge advantage.

            If he wants to keep his WBC title (and his integrity), Canelo is mandated to fight GGG next and has no authority via the WBC to demand a catchweight. If he negotiates one with GGG, the WBC will still sanction the fight but they cannot force GGG here. The truth is you want GGG to once again bend over and give his opponent a huge advantage.

            154 to make the JMW limit where Floyd held a title and came into the ring in the low to mid 150s. Not 155 for Canelo, the MW champ who comes into the ring in the low to mid 170s (heavier than Golovkin). The truth is you either hate GGG or his "fans" so much that you're willing to ignore obvious facts and logic.

            As for the 155 Caneloweight, why on earth would GGG and his team start conceding weight at this point even before they start negotiating? How'd that work out for Dawson against your hero Ward? Did Andre man up and offer a fair compromise, or did he take every advantage and hold Dawson to 168?

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            • HeroBando
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              #106
              Originally posted by Bronx2245
              You do realize B-Hop came in @ 156, that's 155 + 1, and whooped "The Golden Boy." That's what happens when you have confidence in your abilities. That's what champions do!
              The contract weight was 157, which is nowhere near as bad as 155, esp considering Oscar was naturally much smaller, competing in his 6th division. Its pathetic youre supporting such a cowardly demand, one for the record books. Again, team Ggg is happy to give Canelo a CW, but not while the guy is holding the belt

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              • bug0092
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                #107
                Originally posted by Bronx2245
                You do realize B-Hop came in @ 156, that's 155 + 1, and whooped "The Golden Boy." That's what happens when you have confidence in your abilities. That's what champions do!
                BS. Champions know their bodies and understand how much they can drain themselves and what they sacrifice by losing a given amount of weight. When they aren't smart, like Chad Dawson, they lose and they are no longer champions.

                Oscar was a blown up for the Hopkins fight. He looked soft and Bhop knew his body and took advantage of it. Canelo's young and knows he can rehydrate 17 or 18lbs on fight night so he ends up with a significant size advantage. Just as he'd outweigh GGG. The two are completely incomparable situations. If Hopkins was a part of Golovkin's team, you think he'd be pushing GGG to offer 155 right now?

                DLH @ 155 does not equal Canelo @ 155.

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                • icha
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by j0zef
                  155 lbs is a weight.
                  It falls in the MW division in boxing, which spans between 154.0001 and 160.0000 lbs.
                  you said canelo last four fights were at Mw, MW has a limit of 160, neither of those fights had a limit of 160, if the limit is 155 then is a CW not MW...
                  if the limit is 160 but the fighters decide to come in at 155 then you can say it was Mw...
                  and I'm not defending the 155 cw for the title, but there is a difference...

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                  • cork
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by icha
                    you said canelo last four fights were at Mw, MW has a limit of 160, neither of those fights had a limit of 160, if the limit is 155 then is a CW not MW...
                    if the limit is 160 but the fighters decide to come in at 155 then you can say it was Mw...
                    and I'm not defending the 155 cw for the title, but there is a difference...
                    So its not jmw or mw. What do you want to call it? Caneloweight?

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                    • icha
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by cork
                      So its not jmw or mw. What do you want to call it? Caneloweight?
                      its a catchweight fight, you can call it however you want, I have no problem with that...

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