Comments Thread For: Loeffler: We Expect Canelo To Defend Against Golovkin
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5lb is almost down to the lower weight class so really asking a natural middlweight to trim down that much off your body is totally wrong.....now if I saw golovkin in his last few fights come in at 157 or so ....I would say maybe he could get 155.....but he's not that low and for all the years I can remember I have not seen him dip under 159.....so it's also a safety matter dehydratin can be one of the main factors in terms of brain injury as u lose
all your body water and that includes what's around your brain as a cushion....catchweights should not be happening and weight classes are there for a reason..."the bottom line is if your a good enough fighter in that divison yiu should be able to compete from 155 to 160....if you need an advantage by draining a fighter to win a fight in the same division then you shouldn't be in that division in the first place
****head.......
you tried to tell me that 155 is middleweight
You tried to tell me that Canelo was a middleweight, for fighting at 155.
But NOW, you say that 5lbs is " almost down to the lower weight class "
Are you just a silly flip-flopping pacstain ?
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If canelo don't want to fight middleweights he should f@ck off out the division ...there's no space for 155 catchweight fighters who don't honour that belt.....sooner he gets stripped the better and it can all go back to normalComment
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February 14, 2008:
In the days when there were just eight weight divisions, catchweight bouts were commonplace.
Each boxer in such a fight was seen as taking a risk.
The smaller fighter would hope that his opponent might weaken himself making the agreed weight. For the bigger man, the gamble would be whether he could get down to the lighter weight and remain strong...
Bernard Hopkins KO9 Oscar De La Hoya -- Las Vegas, Sept. 18, 2004
Middleweight champion Bernard Hopkins was so eager to make the biggest purse of his career against Oscar De La Hoya that he was willing to give a little in negotiations. Most significant, was his agreeing to the Golden Boy's stipulation that the match be made at a catchweight of 158 pounds, two pounds inside the middleweight limit. In the event, Hopkins came in at the surpassingly light weight of 156 pounds.
If De La Hoya hoped that reducing weight would affect Hopkins's stamina, he got it wrong. As I reported from ringside for Boxing Monthly: "As he gained momentum, Hopkins actually appeared faster than De La Hoya, and coming out for the ninth, the Executioner from Philadelphia looked as if he could keep going strong for many more rounds than the mere four that remained."
Hopkins was to box in another catchweights bout when, as light heavyweight champion, he agreed to meet leading middleweight Winky Wright at a weight of 170 pounds on July 7, 2007, at the Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas. Hopkins carried the weight far better than a soft-looking Wright and dominated the last four rounds to win a unanimous decision.
http://espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=3238297
Oscar had won the Middleweight title from Felix Sturm, so yes, they were in the same weight class. Bernard wanted that check, so he agreed to the catchweight. CHAMPIONS DO WHAT CHAMPIONS DO!
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Thank you for investing the time to explain this situation to casual fans who have little understanding or feel for the game.
Their opinion regarding catchweights is correct imho, they should be completely abolished..... but those casual fanboy ****s will not get the opportunity to demand that catchweights are abolished TODAY, simply because it suits their guy.
Most of that fanbase happily accepted manny-weight for the last 7 years, and none of them objected to the catchweight demand on Ward.
You provided a great example of a guy who is prepared to back up his words with action, unlike Team Hypekin.
Great post, as usual.Comment
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It is middlweight sheep shagger....160.159,158,157,156,155,154.1 ...Light middleweight is 154,153,152 down to 147....I hope that gets through to you dummy....if it's 155 then he's a middleweight fighting in the middleweight division ....canelo is 155 last time I checked now make sense for gods sake ....what a goonComment
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Such an ignorant post. Outside of the hardcore fans on this sight most people don't know or care who the majority of title holders are. GGG has been the man at 160 for a while now and his first PPV against another champion bombed big time. Again, the last thing team GGG want to see is the WBC strip Canelo. The only thing they have to cling to now is the fact that he is the mandatory and even that means nothing to Canelo. Ginger will fight who he wants and under what terms he wants and there is nothing a paper title can do for it. Fighting for all those belts means is GGG has to pay multiple sanctioning fees for each fight and that makes no sense when there are no other big money fights available if Canelo doesn't get his terms.GGG appears to be fine waiting it out. He's got a mandatory to take care of and another belt to go after. If anything, the longer they wait, the more leverage they will have. Unless, you believe the contract with the WBC won't be binding. Either way they'll get the belt. If they choose to go to a catchweight for it, that is THEIR choice. I highly doubt GGG will put his MW belts on the line at 155. I'd strip Canelo and wait him out. If he's content to fight titleless in his own private division as long as GGG reigns at MW then fine. He will only embarrass himself. GGG can make plenty of $$$ defending all his belts over the next 3 or 4 years.
If GGG thinks this fight is happening under anything under than Canelo's terms then its best he move on now as that 100% will not happen. GGG and K2 have no leverage and Canelo's popularity is not affected one bit if he is champion or not.Comment
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I seriously think this fight is getting made before the end of 2017. I know we all want this fight to get made sooner than that, but for whatever reason (gain more momentum with the casuals) the fight is going to marinate for a little while longer. Nonetheless, I truly think this fight will get made eventually.
Forget that fight, it will never happen.
Just like Golovkin/Ward.
If you read Bronx2245's post above, you will see a classic example of a guy who actually wanted to fight, and who actually wanted to be great..... I don't see any of that from Hypekin, just excuses.
They have totally refused to negotiate with Canelo, so they can forget that fight, it will not happen.
And anyone who thinks that Golovkin will happily fight Canelo at 155 for a NON-TITLE fight after Team Hypekin petition the WBC to strip Canelo..... they are fkn dreaming.
1) If Team Hypekin thought they could beat Canelo at 155, they would fight him now
2) Good luck getting better terms from Canelo after getting him stripped because you refused to negotiate.
Canelo will give Golovkin the finger and move on.
Forget that fight, it looks like Team Hypekin passed on the opportunity, AGAIN.Comment
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