Should Manny Still Be Placed Above Floyd On The ATG List?

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  • Reloaded
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    #161
    Originally posted by madsweeney
    Wait, Floyd is top 10 ATG...yet his career defining win and sole win against an ATG is a C- resume having Pacquiao? Damn the rest of Floyd's competition must have been F resumes.
    Career defining what kind of BS is that , his entire body of work defines him and he has accomplished what will probably never be done again .

    Career defining lol you guys crack me up with your bs .

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    • b00g13man
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      #162
      Originally posted by madsweeney
      Whoops, you're right, hes 38 now, was 36 at the time of the fight. But still 36 > 30. 65 fights > 50 3 KO's > 0.



      Morales was declining at 30, not done. FFS, he took Maidana to hell 5 years later. Still doesn't make sense that an older Manny, who had been in more wars than Morales, and KO'ed, is fresher than that 30 yr old Morales.
      Wrong again. You might want to do some research on the boxer you're fanboying for.

      I also repeat. You cannot judge "doneness" based on the number of fights or age. Morales never had a good win after the first Manny fight. That's how you tell a boxer is done.

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        #163
        Originally posted by IMDAZED
        No he's right. Morales was having serious trouble making weight which is why he moved up for the Raheem fight. He lost all negotiating power when he lost. Really, he should have never been given the Pacquiao rematch because he got his ass kicked by Raheem. But he did, also lost out on his wish to have it at 135 and then lost. Even worse...they fought him again smh. Kudos to Arum.
        That was just embarrassing all round.

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          #164
          Originally posted by b00g13man
          . You cannot judge "doneness" based on the number of fights or age. Morales never had a good win after the first Manny fight. That's how you tell a boxer is done.
          Probably because PAC ruined morasles. On that topic you csan almost say the same thing for everyone Floyd ever fought.

          Shot morsales is still just about betttter than anyone on Floyd's resume, especially at that time

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            #165
            Originally posted by hugh grant
            Probably because PAC ruined morasles. On that topic you csan almost say the same thing for everyone Floyd ever fought.

            Shot morsales is still just about betttter than anyone on Floyd's resume, especially at that time

            True mayweather never beat any great fighters at the lower weights. I mean who has he beat? gatti? castillo? LOL. Meanwhile pac beat legendary mexican fighters.

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            • Willy Wanker
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              #166
              They're pretty close, but I pick Floyd. If he never came back in 09, Pac would be ahead easily, even with his losses.

              Regardless of how you feel about how the fight turned out and when they fought, Floyd has the clear victory over Manny.

              Cotto
              Canelo
              Maidana 2x
              Pac

              These four names alone make a better resume than all the young, top fighters today.

              Marquez and Mosley were also good wins.

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                #167
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                Who won Floyd vs Pacquiao? Live and officially, not in slow motion?
                i would have applauded you highly except that..."not in slow motion?"

                why? what is so wrong with reviewing the fight in slow mo?

                it is not about changing decisions or declaring a no contest....

                it is about really seeing what happened....who hit who more, harder etc etc....

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                  #168
                  Originally posted by FlatLine
                  Floyd only agreed to fight Manny after he was devastatingly KOd by Marquez ...
                  you must have missed the memo that throughout the years the boxing world knew that Manny didn't want to blood test nor even accept a fair split..

                  #48!

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                  • hugh grant
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                    #169
                    Some think jmm beat PAC 4 times, and we know jmm isn't greater than PAC. So jmm probably would think it unfair if Floyd was. Hearns isn't greater than duran. And Turpin wouldn't be greater than srr even if he didn't give srr the chance to win rematch

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                      #170
                      This is a ****** question and if you think Manny is above Floyd you're even ******er.

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