Should Manny Still Be Placed Above Floyd On The ATG List?

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  • Spoon23
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    #131
    Since it's still open.


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    Without a shadow of a doubt.

    IV man shouldn't even in the top 100. Cheating is not allowed in any sport. It's disgraceful and loses any credibility left to a sportsman.

    Tainted meat belongs in the jokers dug out.

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    • BoxingIsGreat
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      #132
      Originally posted by fanofslug
      that song is the funniest **** i've heard in a long time, i'm using it on my phone whenever i get ****** msgs
      Yep.. I love that song, too, especially the longer version. Lol

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      • madsweeney
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        #133
        Originally posted by IMDAZED
        Why would he have to break his contract?
        Pretty widely known that Pac Morales II was guaranteed before their tune-ups. http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/ar...p/t-43475.html Oh looky, everyone was expecting an easy win Morales too.

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        • Rath
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          #134
          Originally posted by BlackSoul
          you right mayweather couldnt hurt pacq at all but why is the reason pacq didnt rush in like he always do? hmmm pacquaio got knocked down by a JAB in his career and was HURT and got KO'D 3 times hasnt had a KO since 2009 but he's known as a "power puncher" his best win is barrerra manny pacauio clearly ducked ZAHIR RAHEEM at 135 but who did he fight at 135 was it the consensus champ at 135? we all know HELL NO.
          EVERY last fight that pacq is known for there is some kind of stipulation in his clauses whether catchweight, coming off a loss, or light puncher he has a c- resume and it really cant be defended by anyone who knows boxing.
          he was a HYPE job and he did what he was supposed to do as far as making hbo $ if he was any good he would step up to 154 and try to fight canelo alvarez at a catchweight like mayweather did even tho that wouldnt work bc he wouldnt be the a- side in that fight.
          pacquiao wont fight the beasts at 140, 147 OR 154 bc he KNOWS better
          he's a MARGINAL fighter and thats what ppl will remember him for once the hype goes away and ppl actually analyze his record for what it is
          remember Pac did not KO dela hoya he was not even able to knock delahoya down

          DLH quit on his stool

          remember Pac did not KO cotto ref bayless stop the fight.

          remember Pac did not KO Mosley.

          remember Pac did not KO Margarito

          remember Pac did not KO Hatton @147 he did it @140

          so what is this Pac has not had a KO sin 2009?

          last Pac KO was David Diaz. and even then diaz was not really out but totally wasted and exhausted from those punches.

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            #135
            Originally posted by madsweeney
            Really?!? There were people calling for Pac to break his contract, and climb another weight class after going 1/2 fights @130? Or was this between the win and Raheem's loss 3 months later? Don't try to re-write history, weight classes, and time-lines do not support your made-up conspiracy that there was some big push for that fight. Or are you making the argument that Pac should have ducked the guy that beat him to fight Raheem...wait didn't fight Zab coming off a loss instead of the winner?

            Morales was in better ATG form for Pac than Pac was for Floyd. One boxing lesson < KTFO at the twilight of their careers.


            Based on what?

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            • BoxingIsGreat
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              #136
              Originally posted by Rath
              hatton was undefeated @140lbs.

              Hatton record @147 was 0 win - 0 loss - 0 KO - 0 draw.

              would you like to rethink your opinion?

              the question should not be who beat him first. they cannot fight hatton at the same time can they?

              was Pac already @147 when Floyd beats hatton?

              the question should be who beat hatton better?
              Just to correct your history here, Hatton won the WBA welterweight title in 2006 against Collazo. Welterweight wasn't unknown to Hatton. Since you are new to boxing, how would you know that? That's alright.

              Upping the weight may actually have benefited Hatton against Floyd.

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              • BlackSoul
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                #137
                Originally posted by Rath
                remember Pac did not KO dela hoya he was not even able to knock delahoya down

                DLH quit on his stool

                remember Pac did not KO cotto ref bayless stop the fight.

                remember Pac did not KO Mosley.

                remember Pac did not KO Margarito

                remember Pac did not KO Hatton @147 he did it @140

                so what is this Pac has not had a KO sin 2009?

                last Pac KO was David Diaz. and even then diaz was not really out but totally wasted and exhausted from those punches.
                also pacq was also WALKING through fighters bigger than him at that time when he has been stopped by lesser fighters hmmm

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                • Hougigo
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                  #138
                  I have Khan above both

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                  • Rath
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                    #139
                    Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
                    Just to correct your history here, Hatton won the WBA welterweight title in 2006 against Collazo. Welterweight wasn't unknown to Hatton. Since you are new to boxing, how would you know that? That's alright.

                    Upping the weight may actually have benefited Hatton against Floyd.
                    ok i stand corrected.

                    Hatton record at 147lbs 1 win 0 lose 0 KO 0 draw when Floyd fought him.

                    happy now?

                    what was hatton's record at 140lbs when Pac beat him?
                    Last edited by Rath; 02-02-2016, 12:16 AM.

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                    • Rath
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                      #140
                      Originally posted by BlackSoul
                      also pacq was also WALKING through fighters bigger than him at that time when he has been stopped by lesser fighters hmmm
                      pac was a lesser fighter when he was stopped by a lesser fighter.

                      hmmmmm you say.

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