Should Manny Still Be Placed Above Floyd On The ATG List?

[therealpugilist]

Where on Floyd's resume Is there a Morales or Barrera? You are making every effort to diminish Pacquiao's accomplishments and It Is obvious with the following comment "why couldnt he fight morales fight at a better weight". Floyd does not have the resume that Pacquiao does and no amount of criticizing Is going to change that fact.

im being realistic, not diminishing

People overrate certain wins to inflate his resume

Manny himself is better than wins over Morales and Barrera...Cotto is on their level....Mosley should be rated higher than them too, he spent the better part of a decade recognized as one of the best p4p, first to legitimately beat DLH, and won titles at 135,147, 154 and obliterated the so called monster margarito at an advanced age...imo he was also more talented than them


Mayweathers overall body of work is more impressive than Manny's

1)he has the head to head win
2)Mayweather beat more champions
3) Beat more hall of famers
4) He has 26 title fight wins 0 losses...20 are lineal title fights....most are lineal....Manny is only 6-2-1 in lineal title fights and 18-3-2
5) didnt need a million rematches in his career and only had one really close nod...JLC 1 and clearly won rematch, Pac didint beat JMM conclusively one time in four tries and Mayweather whitewashed him after a 2 year lay off




numbers dont lie...people do

[RED REP]

Floyd divides opinion. In some polls he is above pac and below PAC in some others.
Some have Floyd top 10, some do nt have Floyd top 30.

All things considered both JUST creep into a historians top 25, at a slight push too.

[BlackSoul]

Wait, Floyd is top 10 ATG...yet his career defining win and sole win against an ATG is a C- resume having Pacquiao? Damn the rest of Floyd's competition must have been F resumes.

well the public massively hyped up this fighter and he did worse than cotto, ricky hatton, even andre berto and victor ortiz his best win isnt pacquao(theres a diff between legacy fights and career defining fights)

[hugh grant]

im being realistic, not diminishing

People overrate certain wins to inflate his resume

Manny himself is better than wins over Morales and Barrera...Cotto is on their level....Mosley should be rated higher than them too,


1) didnt need a million rematches in his career and only had one really close nod...JLC 1 and clearly won rematch, Pac didint beat JMM conclusively one time in four tries and Mayweather whitewashed him after a 2 year layle do

Cotton was never p4pno2 like Barrera so why is he that good a win for Floyd. People said he'd never be the same after loss to PAC? SSM was never no2 in the world at that point, at the time some people might have thought was but we have benefit of hindsight.
PAC has never needed a million rematches. Its basically 2 opponents in reality. Against jmm and morales. The same as Floyd.

[BlackSoul]

Probably because PAC ruined morasles. On that topic you csan almost say the same thing for everyone Floyd ever fought.

Shot morsales is still just about betttter than anyone on Floyd's resume, especially at that time

well no boxing afficionados will agree with you, you are less than 5% of the public in that regard

[BlackSoul]

how can a fighter be considered an ATG or a HOF by fighting ***4))) FIGHTERS ***13))) TIMES???
SOMEBODY EXPLAIN THIS TO ME

[Szef]

how can a fighter be considered an ATG or a HOF by fighting ***4))) FIGHTERS ***13))) TIMES???
SOMEBODY EXPLAIN THIS TO ME

Sugar Ray Robinson is considered the GOAT and he fought one fighter (Jake LaMotta) 6 times...

But Floyd is clearly above Manny at this point, don't really know how anybody could say otherwise.

[BlackSoul]

Sugar Ray Robinson is considered the GOAT and he fought one fighter (Jake LaMotta) 6 times...

But Floyd is clearly above Manny at this point, don't really know how anybody could say otherwise.

how many times did SRR fight? he ABSOLUTELY CLEANED OUT THE DIVISIONS thus fighting a certain fighter multiple times when has pacquaio cleaned out a division?

[hhs661]

I never had Manny ahead of him. That doesn't mean he's not an atg. In my view, he's never been better than Floyd. Their fight further proved that

[Szef]

how many times did SRR fight? he ABSOLUTELY CLEANED OUT THE DIVISIONS thus fighting a certain fighter multiple times when has pacquaio cleaned out a division?

You came up with some ******ed notion that if a fighter fights the same fighters multiple times, they can't be considered HOF or ATG.

I just followed your narrow minded way of thinking.