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  • SplitSecond
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    #51
    Originally posted by PBP.
    No single entity has a deep enough stable to not marinate fights though. Let's look at Haymon's welterweights. What if this happened this year:

    Winter:
    Thurman/Porter
    Garcia/Guerrero

    Spring:
    Peterson/Berto
    Spence/Vazquez

    Summer:
    Garcia/Khan
    Spence/Peterson

    Fall:
    Garcia/Thurman

    2017: Spence/Thurman


    He would run through his entire roster in a little over a year and most of the fights would flop because none of those guys have fanbases. That's why marination is necessary in a lot of cases.
    Instead of marination, they should try more promotions.

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    • Fetta
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      #52
      Originally posted by Vicious.
      hahah I remember that. I think it was Fetta. But womens championship game doe
      Oh im right here.

      WNBA game 7 championship in a sold out Target center which sold out in 45 min...yeah i think they have a market

      Also said baseball playoffs would hurt GGG PPV and many on here said I was full of it and there's no way baseball could take that because nobody watches baseball but look what he did

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        #53
        Originally posted by Fetta
        You were just trying to spin about how big sports caused HBO numbers to be down on another yhread and yet here you are not using that same logic to an even bigger game being on at the same time.

        Haha!! You are such a little girl
        I ain't spin nothing. And you the chump who tried to say PBC flopping on ESPN was because it went head to head against WBNA on ESPN2. LMAO Homie get off my tip and don't quote me. I embarrassed you already. Let the adults talk and go sit at the children's table.


        Haymon has seen massive flops across all networks for about 8 months straight. Must hurt because you noting but a Haymon groupie. If you think this is a one time blimp on the radar you haven't been following the ratings. they are all down. But go ahead and please try and deflect and tell us all how PBC is so great and will be successful? Fighting on PBC has hurt every fighter that has fought on it. Wilder pulled in 1.3mil This time last year when Golden Boy was promoting him on showtime. Now he's pulling not even half that on the same network after fighting on PBC.

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        • The Big Dunn
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          #54
          I guess Wilder is feeling the brunt of not looking great against subpar competition. Spilka was not the kind of opponent people want to see a "champion" face.

          Haymon needs to do a better job of marketing/promoting the fights he puts on. He should also pay more attention to dates-putting on a HWT title fight the same night that NFL playoffs is on is going to cut into your viewership.

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            #55
            Originally posted by PBP.
            No single entity has a deep enough stable to not marinate fights though. Let's look at Haymon's welterweights. What if this happened this year:

            Winter:
            Thurman/Porter
            Garcia/Guerrero

            Spring:
            Peterson/Berto
            Spence/Vazquez

            Summer:
            Garcia/Khan
            Spence/Peterson

            Fall:
            Garcia/Thurman

            2017: Spence/Thurman


            He would run through his entire roster in a little over a year and most of the fights would flop because none of those guys have fanbases. That's why marination is necessary in a lot of cases.
            The losers could fight the losers and the winners could fight the winners. Hell if they're lucky some of those fights might be real good and people would demand/want a rematch. But if they are insisting on marinating it by putting them in against bums where the outcome is so clear there is no point of watching the fight then it just does more harm than help

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            • Fetta
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              #56
              Originally posted by bigdunny1
              I ain't spin nothing. And you the chump who tried to say PBC flopping on ESPN was because it went head to head against WBNA on ESPN2. LMAO Homie get off my tip and don't quote me. I embarrassed you already. Let the adults talk and go sit at the children's table.


              Haymon has seen massive flops across all networks for about 8 months straight. Must hurt because you noting but a Haymon groupie. If you think this is a one time blimp on the radar you haven't been following the ratings. they are all down. But go ahead and please try and deflect and tell us all how PBC is so great and will be successful? Fighting on PBC has hurt every fighter that has fought on it. Wilder pulled in 1.3mil This time last year when Golden Boy was promoting him on showtime. Now he's pulling not even half that on the same network after fighting on PBC.
              You were spinning and got exposed.

              In the end i dont care about numbers. I watch thd sport and can care less if anyone else does.

              I let you boys complain that people you dont know didng watch.

              I watched football. Not gonna lie

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                #57
                Originally posted by Fetta
                Oh im right here.

                WNBA game 7 championship in a sold out Target center which sold out in 45 min...yeah i think they have a market

                Also said baseball playoffs would hurt GGG PPV and many on here said I was full of it and there's no way baseball could take that because nobody watches baseball but look what he did
                He's not giving up.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Deevel916
                  He's not giving up.
                  Cause im right but go on thinking just cause you dont watch no one else does.

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                    #59
                    I would be far more sympathetic towards Haymon/PBC haters if they could provide me with ANYTHING as a boxing fan I stand to gain by PBC's failure.

                    How do lower purses help me as a fan? How do more mediocre HBO cards help me as a boxing fan? As far as I can tell there is zero to be gained by the failure of PBC so the hate just seems personal to me, maybe even a little racist honestly..

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                    • bigdunny1
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by PBP.
                      No single entity has a deep enough stable to not marinate fights though. Let's look at Haymon's welterweights. What if this happened this year:

                      Winter:
                      Thurman/Porter
                      Garcia/Guerrero

                      Spring:
                      Peterson/Berto
                      Spence/Vazquez

                      Summer:
                      Garcia/Khan
                      Spence/Peterson

                      Fall:
                      Garcia/Thurman

                      2017: Spence/Thurman


                      He would run through his entire roster in a little over a year and most of the fights would flop because none of those guys have fanbases. That's why marination is necessary in a lot of cases.
                      Fans are not calling for these guys to fight someone elite EVERY fight out. Most fans understand marinating and are ok with a tough fight and then a stay busy fight then another tough fight. The problem with Haymon fighters is Khan has fought what 5 straight bums since Garcia almost 4 years ago. Thurman won a belt what 3 years ago? and still hasn't fought a single top ranked welterweight. And neither is because one guy is under one promoter and the other is not so you have boxing politics holding it back. All these guys under 1 camp and not fighting for years! That's not called marinating. That's called BS!

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