Wilder-Szpilka averages 500K viewers

[Pigeons]

Wilder-Stiverne: 1.238M Average Viewers and 8,454 Official Attendance
Wilder-Molina: 678K Average Viewers and 9,347 Official Attendance
Wilder-Duhaupas: 2.179M Average Viewers and 8,471 Official Attendance
Wilder-Szpilka: 500K Average Viewers and 12,668 Official Attendance

[bigdunny1]

The entire Wilder-Szpilka card, for what was televised, had a total fighter payout of $2.5m; with the folks that watched the fight live on Showtime, the folks that watched the fight on Showtime's YouTube page (which was how I watched it, after the fact, as I was travelling), the folks who caught the fight on their DVRs, and the amount attention that was drawn to the fight afterwards (the number of viewers who ended up seeing the penultimate moment of the massive KO of Szplika, in addition to the Fury-Wilder promo post-fight, as of 1/20/16, has already topped 4 million), I sincerely doubt that Showtime viewed the fight card as the flop that you seem to hope for it to have been (Showtime basically giving the card away for free should also be acknowledged).

Brook-Bizier is already set for Sky Sports, as is the Frampton-Quigg fight that was picked up (paired with LSC's first title defense, in anticipation of a possible LSC-Frampton/Quigg winner bout); with Amir Khan talking up having his next fight in March, and a possible Brook-Khan fight likely for Jul/Aug, making the investment in airing Brook's fight (especially if paired with a same-day Khan fight) is a no brainer. Chavez Jr commands more money than is feasible for a PBC card to fight, therefore it's likely that he fights out the rest of his career on Showtime/SHOPPV. You add that the bulk of the other fights mentioned involve significant international money (which draws up other issues, in terms of trying to sell US terrestrial TV rights on premium TV internationally).

If you want to honestly try to trumpet the success of Golden Boy, I've got better things to do with my time.

You trying to hard bruh the shyt flopped and DVR's are included in the TV ratings. And I could care less what it did on Youtube after the fact. That does nothing for Showtime's subscription base or TV ratings. Showtime was FREE this weekend and still nobody wanted to watch. Showtime just flushed 2.5mil down the toilet. Hell there are HBO boxing after dark shows that pay all their fighters less then 1mil total and do better TV Ratings. A year ago there were ShoBox cards with prospects and no namers that did this many viewers and showtime paid 500K for all the fighters. Just to put in perspective how badly this fight performed. And stop naming a bunch of fighters you think will fight next on showtime when everything with Haymon is fluid. Everyone thought Thurman vs Porter would happen last year on NBC. Then it was supposed to be on Showtime, then it was supposed to be on FOX and as of right now we think it will air on CBS. So if these networks from day to day don't know how the hell do you know where any of these fights might land? None of the cards could end up on Showtime. And even if some do they do based on the recent trends they might flop like the last 8 months worth of Showtime fights. Facts are facts since the Golden Boy split Haymon has done nothing but ruin showtime. The ratings a year ago compared to now are all down by at least half across the board. But yeah Showtime is doing great!

[Scipio2009]

You trying to hard bruh the shyt flopped and DVR's are included in the TV ratings. And I could care less what it did on Youtube after the fact. That does nothing for Showtime's subscription base or TV ratings. Showtime was FREE this weekend and still nobody wanted to watch. Showtime just flushed 2.5mil down the toilet. Hell there are HBO boxing after dark shows that pay all their fighters less then 1mil total and do better TV Ratings. A year ago there were ShoBox cards with prospects and no namers that did this many viewers and showtime paid 500K for all the fighters. Just to put in perspective how badly this fight performed. And stop naming a bunch of fighters you think will fight next on showtime when everything with Haymon is fluid. Everyone thought Thurman vs Porter would happen last year on NBC. Then it was supposed to be on Showtime, then it was supposed to be on FOX and as of right now we think it will air on CBS. So if these networks from day to day don't know how the hell do you know where any of these fights might land? None of the cards could end up on Showtime. And even if some do they do based on the recent trends they might flop like the last 8 months worth of Showtime fights. Facts are facts since the Golden Boy split Haymon has done nothing but ruin showtime. The ratings a year ago compared to now are all down by at least half across the board. But yeah Showtime is doing great!

If you actually saw the link, you'd know that your statement was utter bull****; the rating breakdown (used to state what each fight drew) clearly shows the fight start time, the duration of the fight, and how the composite number breaks down over the various age demographics (how someone can tell how old someone is DVRing a program is beyond me).

The massive Szpilka KO and the promo hyping a future Fury-Wilder fight has already been viewed 4 million times, yet you've continued to ignore that (the view count for the Wilder-Szpilka fight card, by the time I got a chance to see it, had already gotten to 300k views, with that number likely going up even higher before Showtime took the fight off of YouTube; a move likely timed to the end of the freeview period for Showtime).

I get it; you desperately want Haymon effort fail, since he had the temerity to not leave his business or his fighters in the hands of a cross-dressing, recovering addict. Fine.

have fun with that

[Fetta]

Wilder-Stiverne: 1.238M Average Viewers and 8,454 Official Attendance
Wilder-Molina: 678K Average Viewers and 9,347 Official Attendance
Wilder-Duhaupas: 2.179M Average Viewers and 8,471 Official Attendance
Wilder-Szpilka: 500K Average Viewers and 12,668 Official Attendance

When you put it like that it really doesnt sound that bad

[bigdunny1]

Because watching YouTube clips doesn't translate to real ratings. Wilder going from 1.3mil real viewers to less then half a year later but that's what showtime was looking for? You the only desperate one bringing up youtube clip views as your latest line of defense for another haymon fight that lost money and pulled bad TV ratings but hey you are getting more creative I'll give you that. Went from bringing up baseball games for the reason to now youtube lol

[Nubia]

Wilder-Stiverne: 1.238M Average Viewers and 8,454 Official Attendance
Wilder-Molina: 678K Average Viewers and 9,347 Official Attendance
Wilder-Duhaupas: 2.179M Average Viewers and 8,471 Official Attendance
Wilder-Szpilka: 500K Average Viewers and 12,668 Official Attendance

Interesting...

Viewership went down but attendance went up. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a sellout.

[MrRolltide91]

Wilder-Stiverne: 1.238M Average Viewers and 8,454 Official Attendance
Wilder-Molina: 678K Average Viewers and 9,347 Official Attendance
Wilder-Duhaupas: 2.179M Average Viewers and 8,471 Official Attendance
Wilder-Szpilka: 500K Average Viewers and 12,668 Official Attendance

What network was the molina fight on?

[Eastcoast]

How the hell does Espinoza keep his job?

[MrRolltide91]

PBC needs wilder to be the undisputed heavyweight champion

[285Kid]

Its not Wilders is Showtime , Showtime is done as a boxing network (HBO will soon be done) time to put the heavyweights on regular tv