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  • #61
    Originally posted by kafkod View Post
    I seriously doubt that GGG vs Lara would be a PPV fight, and Lara earns $1million plus for fighting nobodies on Haymon's shows.

    Why do you think that K2 would want to pay more than a $1million for a fighter with no title and no fans who would surely stink the joint out against Golovkin?

    And remember, Stevenson could have earned more for fighting Kovalev on HBO than he has ever earned for a single fight in his career, but Haymon still said NO to that one.
    Still having trouble digesting that there are actual FIGHT FANS out there that will order a great match-up and not be s fan of either guy, nor have a rooting interest.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by hitking View Post
      Still having trouble digesting that there are actual FIGHT FANS out there that will order a great match-up and not be s fan of either guy, nor have a rooting interest.
      Any GGG fight is going to do well internationally.

      But on HBO PPV, for the US audience, GGG vs Lara would sink like a stone.

      And it wouldn't be a great match-up. No way would Lara be competitive vs Golovkin, and most knowledgable boxing fans would know that.
      Last edited by kafkod; 01-19-2016, 10:55 AM.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by kafkod View Post
        Any GGG fight is going to do well internationally.

        But on HBO PPV, for the US audience, GGG vs Lara would sink like a stone.

        And it wouldn't be a great match-up. No way would Lara be competitive vs Golovkin, and most knowledgable boxing fans would know that.
        Lara did pretty well on PPV against Canelo. And either way, GGG does better numbers with Lara than he did with Lemieux or what he would do with BJS. Its hard to look good against Lara. So hardcore fans would be intriguex to see if GGG could.

        As for Lara's competitiveness, I agree. I think his style fits GGG perfectly. That said, I didn't think Lemieux would be competitive. Don't think BJS will be competitive. Don't think Jacobs will be competitive. So that's irrelevant to why GGG should or shouldn't fight him. Lara is a better fighter than anyone currently on Gennady's radar outside of Canelo, depending on who you ask. So why not chase the best available scalp? Isn't that what great fighters do? Maybe its time for GGG to go to Plan B. Because Plan A, chasing B class paper beltholders has been an epic fail so far.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by hitking View Post
          Lara did pretty well on PPV against Canelo. And either way, GGG does better numbers with Lara than he did with Lemieux or what he would do with BJS. Its hard to look good against Lara. So hardcore fans would be intriguex to see if GGG could.

          As for Lara's competitiveness, I agree. I think his style fits GGG perfectly. That said, I didn't think Lemieux would be competitive. Don't think BJS will be competitive. Don't think Jacobs will be competitive. So that's irrelevant to why GGG should or shouldn't fight him. Lara is a better fighter than anyone currently on Gennady's radar outside of Canelo, depending on who you ask. So why not chase the best available scalp? Isn't that what great fighters do? Maybe its time for GGG to go to Plan B. Because Plan A, chasing B class paper beltholders has been an epic fail so far.
          Lol. Don't you mean CANELO did well on PPV vs Lara?

          Whatever, if GGG can't get Saunders he is going to have to fight Johnson next, or be stripped of his IBF title.

          I know you won't think that matters, but it matters to K2 and Golovkin.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by kafkod View Post
            Lol. Don't you mean CANELO did well on PPV vs Lara?

            Whatever, if GGG can't get Saunders he is going to have to fight Johnson next, or be stripped of his IBF title.

            I know you won't think that matters, but it matters to K2 and Golovkin.
            Money, belts, PPV numbers, and all that other bull**** aside. What do you think the average fight fan wants to see? GGG-Lara or GGG vs any middleweight not named Canelo?

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            • #66
              Originally posted by hitking View Post
              Money, belts, PPV numbers, and all that other bull**** aside. What do you think the average fight fan wants to see? GGG-Lara or GGG vs any middleweight not named Canelo?
              Average fan wants Lara off TV for good, esp if they paid for Canelo Lara

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              • #67
                Originally posted by hitking View Post
                Money, belts, PPV numbers, and all that other bull**** aside. What do you think the average fight fan wants to see? GGG-Lara or GGG vs any middleweight not named Canelo?
                I don't believe the average fight fan gives a **** about Lara. A few people at this forum do, but that doesn't mean anything. His last fight, free to air on Spike TV, was watched by only 466k viewers.

                "On PBC on Spike Erislandy Lara vs. Delvin Rodriguez was seen by an average of only 446,000 viewers. That is an abject failure for a combat event broadcast on Spike TV. Lara has never been of interest to casual fans."

                http://boxingtonight.co.uk/boxing-ge...gures-plummet/

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
                  Average fan wants Lara off TV for good, esp if they paid for Canelo Lara
                  What boxing fan wants a superior boxer off the air?

                  What boxing fans should want is the power punchers of this era to learn how to cut off the ring like power punchers from previous eras so we can get a great stylistic matchup.

                  What HBO and fans of the guys the have under contract want is opponents for their favorites that have no chance to win and will likely get KTFO.

                  What does continually beating opponents like that accomplish?

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by kafkod View Post
                    I don't believe the average fight fan gives a **** about Lara. A few people at this forum do, but that doesn't mean anything. His last fight, free to air on Spike TV, was watched by only 466k viewers.

                    "On PBC on Spike Erislandy Lara vs. Delvin Rodriguez was seen by an average of only 446,000 viewers. That is an abject failure for a combat event broadcast on Spike TV. Lara has never been of interest to casual fans."

                    http://boxingtonight.co.uk/boxing-ge...gures-plummet/
                    Again, just because people don't have an interest in seeing guys like Lara against no hopers doesn't mean they don't respect their talent. And doesn't mean they would have no interest in seeing them against other top fighters.

                    As for casual fans not caring about Lara. Casual fans don't care about GGG either. So that's kinda moot to the discussion.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                      What boxing fan wants a superior boxer off the air?

                      What boxing fans should want is the power punchers of this era to learn how to cut off the ring like power punchers from previous eras so we can get a great stylistic matchup.

                      What HBO and fans of the guys the have under contract want is opponents for their favorites that have no chance to win and will likely get KTFO.

                      What does continually beating opponents like that accomplish?
                      Oh Lara has no chance to win and would likely get Ktfoed by Ggg, however most fans don't wanna see a track meet beforehand. A few hardcore fans wouldn't mind, but these are a blip on the radar

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