Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Promoter on Saunders Fallout, Canelo is Top Fall Target

[Scipio2009]

"Seemingly allocated to establish a TV broadcast series for boxing"

In other words, you haven't got a clue what you are talking about.

Do you really think Haymon is paying, or over-paying, his fighters out of his own pocket?

The fact that you don't see the disconnect between using money to establish PBC, and then use that money to fund something that is not PBC, makes even trying to explain things further useless.

Jacobs-Quillin, as far as the parties in it were concerned, was a massive fight. The the main event sopped up $3m, the entire Showtime Championship Boxing main telecast only ended up costing $3.3m, with the ShoExtreme piece of the show adding a bit to that.

With Showtime backing the event with SHO and ShoExtreme in the US, Barclays Center sponsoring and hosting the event, BoxNation paying for the UK rights to the fight, TV Azteca apparently picking up the Mexico TV rights, Canal Space having the TV rights for the rest of Latin America, the other TV rights in question, Corona being the title sponsor of the event, the event actually making some money at the gate, other pieces of the pie, the total payout to the fighters on the card, and without an event promoter taking home 40% of the proceeds on the fight, the actual numbers are closer to being in line than what you're willing to acknowledge.

[j0zef]

Lol. Don't you mean CANELO did well on PPV vs Lara?

Whatever, if GGG can't get Saunders he is going to have to fight Johnson next, or be stripped of his IBF title.

I know you won't think that matters, but it matters to K2 and Golovkin.

Correction, Canelo did poorly on PPV against Lara. 300k is low for someone who was coming off Mayweather. Still a financial success, but a far cry from a superstar.

[The Big Dunn]

Oh Lara has no chance to win and would likely get Ktfoed by Ggg, however most fans don't wanna see a track meet beforehand. A few hardcore fans wouldn't mind, but these are a blip on the radar

or, his movement would tire GGG and give him chances to score to the point where he might score an upset. Tuareano Johnson can't move so he has no chance.

We will never know unless the fight gets made. Its just a shame that HBO has conditioned boxing fans to not like boxing but rather punching out a low skilled opponent that has no chance.

[Boxfan83]

Recently K2 Promotions - on behalf of WBA/IBF/IBO middleweight champion Gennady Golovkin (34-0, 31KOs) - made an offer to face WBO belt-holder Billy Joe Saunders (23-0, 12KOs) in a unification on April 23rd. The offer was said to be a deal in excess of $3 million but it seems as though Saunders and his promoter, Frank Warren, have other plans for the spring.

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Al Haymon be like, "whatever they offered you, I'll double it."

[Scipio2009]

I seriously doubt that GGG vs Lara would be a PPV fight, and Lara earns $1million plus for fighting nobodies on Haymon's shows.

Why do you think that K2 would want to pay more than a $1million for a fighter with no title and no fans who would surely stink the joint out against Golovkin?

And remember, Stevenson could have earned more for fighting Kovalev on HBO than he has ever earned for a single fight in his career, but Haymon still said NO to that one.

lol. And now you're trying to argue that Lara, after having his last 10 fights on big-time TV (HBO, Showtime, SHOPPV, ESPN, and SpikeTV), isn't worth even talking to, yet K2 was happy to pay nearly $3m to try and get ****ing Billy Joe Saunders to fight? gtfoh.

Golovkin would be walking into the ring with his first opponent, in his entire ****ing professional career, that most boxing fans will acknowledge as being a legit fighter, yet folks like you are still looking to find a way to duck.

And please quit it with that "fighting Kovalev on HBO is more money than Stevenson could get for a single fight in his career" bull****. Adonis Stevenson, since moving over to Showtime, has headlined four fights, three of which were sold on PPV in Canada, with all four fights drawing from his strong profile in Quebec.

Stevenson-Fonfara 2 on Showtime/Canadian PPV, in all honestly, likely puts more money in Stevenson's pocket than HBO's below-market nonsense offer.

[kafkod]

Again, just because people don't have an interest in seeing guys like Lara against no hopers doesn't mean they don't respect their talent. And doesn't mean they would have no interest in seeing them against other top fighters.

As for casual fans not caring about Lara. Casual fans don't care about GGG either. So that's kinda moot to the discussion.

That's what I was saying. And without that interest from the casual fans, a fight will bomb on PPV.

[Basco]

NAHul Can'tnelo Wackvarez don't want it though lol. In the future doe. Born ready just not for Gennady doe. Vampire looking coward ass beach.

At least you hate all equally, I can respect that! lol

[eco1]

As a fan, it's very frustrating at this point.

The only thing we can do as fans is pressure the promoters, managers and sanctioning org's to make the fights we want.

we should find a way to do it because at this point i am almost into ballet for all i care

[hitking]

That's what I was saying. And without that interest from the casual fans, a fight will bomb on PPV.

No it won't. A successful PPV for guys like GGG and Lara is 300K. I think that number is doable. Only time casual fan interest counts is for guys like Floyd and Manny. And to a lesser degree Canelo.

[hitking]

Average fan wants Lara off TV for good, esp if they paid for Canelo Lara

Any "fight fan" that wants Lara off air isn't a fight fan.