Why do posters say Roy jones Achieved more then Mayweather?

[JJRod]

He didn't and anyone who thinks so is a moron or bias.

[Larry the boss]

You didn't make anything irrelevant. You don't know the difference between rating someone's skill, and accomplishments, versus who is actually better. Manny pacquiao is a great talent and accomplished way more than Kovalev but he's not better than him. You can't be better than a guy you can't beat, nor any of his contemporaries. That applies to every competition. Just beause a bunch of boxing geeks got together and created some unprovable idea of p4p doesn't mean it's valid in reality. You can debate who is more accomplished and skilled but you can't tell a sane person that a 120 pound guy is a better than a cruiserweight. It's absurd. You don't know the difference between than and then, don't think you've explored an angle to this I haven't thought of.

lol...bull**** ..manny is way better then him

[Larry the boss]

You didn't make anything irrelevant. You don't know the difference between rating someone's skill, and accomplishments, versus who is actually better. Manny pacquiao is a great talent and accomplished way more than Kovalev but he's not better than him. You can't be better than a guy you can't beat, nor any of his contemporaries. That applies to every competition. Just beause a bunch of boxing geeks got together and created some unprovable idea of p4p doesn't mean it's valid in reality. You can debate who is more accomplished and skilled but you can't tell a sane person that a 120 pound guy is a better than a cruiserweight. It's absurd. You don't know the difference between than and then, don't think you've explored an angle to this I haven't thought of.

And you just agreed to what i said you said...John Ruiz is better then Sugar Ray Robinson..So all heavyweights are better then any ww in history right?

[Reloaded]

To be fair those dudes were in their 20's when roy dominated them.

Pacquaio was washed.

I personally prefer floyd over roy, but a Middleweight will never win the heavyweight title again.

You will see another 130 pounder win titles all the way up to 154 though. (Broner most likely being the next)

I disagree I think you will have a MW that can win a HW title down the road , it only depends on the timing , a great MW that can really move and box and a B grade sitting duck HW that holds a title , Roy could not have and would not have even tried to fight say a Holyfield or Lewis , he wouldnt have taken the chance with even a Ray Mercer , Ruiz was ripe and made to order , to win the HW belt is all well and good on face value but its not the same as beating the top guys of that time .


I agree lots in the future will win titles from 130 to 154 , not all belt holders are Elite fighters most are from B to A , youve got to break down the title win to see its true worth .

[Reloaded]

lol...bull**** ..manny is way better then him

For sure he is Larry , a LH Manny would beat Kov up .

[El-blanco]

And you just agreed to what i said you said...John Ruiz is better then Sugar Ray Robinson..So all heavyweights are better then any ww in history right?

They can be more accomplished and greater in their bracket, but you can't be better than someone you can't compete against, and if you did, you'd be hospitalized. Being better in any competition is about being able to beat your competitor and their contemporaries. What complicates boxing is the divisions but the same principle stands. Keep thinking you're exposing me when you don't comprehend the absurdity of what youre saying. You're hopeless.

[Chollo Vista]

Why do people keep calling Roy a MW?? He started as a JMW!!!

Secondly, I don't care what C class Cruserweight title holder you put Floyd in the ring with while weighing 154 pounds, he won't beat them. Plain and simple.

Hell, Floyd won't even fight a C class MW, let alone cruiserweight.

This is what Prime Roy Jones was willing to do.

[Reloaded]

They can be more accomplished and greater in their bracket, but you can't be better than someone you can't compete against, and if you did, you'd be hospitalized. Being better in any competition is about being able to beat your competitor and their contemporaries. What complicates boxing is the divisions but the same principle stands. Keep thinking you're exposing me when you don't comprehend the absurdity of what youre saying. You're hopeless.

Mate there are HWs that would KO Roman Rigo and Lomo in the same night , they are not better fighters because the KOing HW cannot compete in his own class while the others dominate the best in the world .

They are millionaires and famous the HW that KOed them is a 3 round club fighter dribbling in his lap at the end of the bar .

Better is being the successful one , your idea of better is a bum big guy belting a good little guy , it runs a lot deeper than that .

[Reloaded]

Why do people keep calling Roy a MW?? He started as a JMW!!!

Secondly, I don't care what C class Cruserweight title holder you put Floyd in the ring with while weighing 154 pounds, he won't beat them. Plain and simple.

Hell, Floyd won't even fight a C class MW, let alone cruiserweight.

This is what Prime Roy Jones was willing to do.

lol I had to laugh at your pros and cons , the MW youre talking about is supposed to be the next coming of Hagler and 40 yr old Floyd starting from 130 and 20 yrs in the sport is retiring is supposed to fight him .

You dont care what class of cruiser weight , hmm I will pick the CW and I bet Floyd wins , not gunna look pretty but Floyd wont get touched all night .

And prime Roy Jones was not willing to fight the top HWs , he chose Ruiz one of those average fighters that just picks up a belt , Baldomire was a better class fighter than Ruiz .

[nivek535]

because these posters want larry to make a mayweather thread at least once a day.