Comments Thread For: Guerrero: Mayweather Won Easy, Speed Froze Pacquiao

[MisanthropicNY]

Gurrero fell for the same deception millions of others did: Mayweather's speed was so fast MOST didn't realize that his PUNCHES WERE NOT Landing on Pacquiao. Pacquiao blocked about 90% of Mayweather's shots with his gloves and arms. The other 10% of Mayweather's landed shots were shots that didn't fully connect... Pacquiao didn't do that much either, but he did more than Mayweather and clearly dominated at least two rounds..

Pac landed more shots, the better-harder shots, and was the aggressor in more rounds.

If you haven't watched the fight in slow motion please do so, it's pretty clear that Mayweather did not land anywhere near what compubox stated (See Cotto v. Mayweather fight as well where there are clear rounds where compubox was just so off target with its punch totals it's beyond laughable.)

To beat Mayweather in Vegas, you have to dominate the round..you can't just win..but the Slow motion replay of May-Pac clearly shows Pac the winner. And this isn't the first time Mayweather has lost a fight either: See Castillo 1 and Maidana 1

[Carpe Diem]

I think people wrongly look at boxing speed in a one-dimensional way. A guy throws a 4-7 punch combinations with speed is one type of speed. A guy who throws a 2-4 punch combination slower, but with more accuracy and pacing is another. A guy who throws 1-2 punches with quick release at the right time with accuracy is another.

Floyd doesn't throw flashy or overwhelming 4-7 punch speed combinations like Manny or some other young fighters. Why? He doesn't need to. He's all but mastered his art of throwing 1-2, maybe 3 punches at a time with accuracy and to conserve energy. Floyd would rather land one "quick release" punch than to throw 7 while only landing one.

Some underestimate Floyd's USE of his speed and timing.

Manny Pacquiao was supposed to be the one who had an answer for Floyd's movement and single punches at a time. He was supposed to be the one who's hand AND foot speed were going to offset Floyd. He was supposed to be the one to **** the arms, body, hips, back, shoulders, elbows, etc to slow Floyd down for the late rounds. He was supposed to be the one who could make Floyd so uncomfortable that Floyd would have to stop being himself just to fight back.

When Manny would get Floyd in the corner, Floyd would either duck and move (which Roach led Pacman to believe he didn't have the legs to do anymore) or Floyd would keep ducking low evading Manny's 6-7 punch combinations, then move or counter. Manny was used to doing that vs a stationary Margarito and drained DLH.

Manny, as great as he is, wasn't able to do any of that. That is what pissed people off. The fight wasn't exciting. I get that. Floyd did what he always does. Manny was supposed to be the x-factor to change what Floyd "always does". It wasn't about this being the fight that Floyd finally throws caution to the wind for please the fans. This was supposed to be the fight where Manny was Floyd's equal enough to force Floyd into something he'd never seen, felt or dealt with before. Turns out, Floyd has mastered what he does so well that Manny was just another.

Nuff said.......

[Sweet_Science2]

Gurrero fell for the same deception millions of others did: Mayweather's speed was so fast MOST didn't realize that his PUNCHES WERE NOT Landing on Pacquiao. Pacquiao blocked about 90% of Mayweather's shots with his gloves and arms. The other 10% of Mayweather's landed shots were shots that didn't fully connect... Pacquiao didn't do that much either, but he did more than Mayweather and clearly dominated at least two rounds..

Pac landed more shots, the better-harder shots, and was the aggressor in more rounds.

If you haven't watched the fight in slow motion please do so, it's pretty clear that Mayweather did not land anywhere near what compubox stated (See Cotto v. Mayweather fight as well where there are clear rounds where compubox was just so off target with its punch totals it's beyond laughable.)

To beat Mayweather in Vegas, you have to dominate the round..you can't just win..but the Slow motion replay of May-Pac clearly shows Pac the winner. And this isn't the first time Mayweather has lost a fight either: See Castillo 1 and Maidana 1

LOL yeah watch the fight in slow mo in HD with the lights off, and no sound! Get your lame ass outta here. 48-0 chump

[SplitSecond]

Oh god, people actually believe this lol.

[isidius]

Pacfarts can't get a break

[joseph5620]

Oh god, people actually believe this lol.

Yes they do. It's unfortunate that you're not smart enough to understand it.

[Mike D]

If you haven't watched the fight in slow motion please do so, it's pretty clear that Mayweather did not land anywhere near what compubox stated

Thing is bro, fights aren't scored in slo-mo as you know. They're scored in real time live.

I watched the fight once, and have no desire to watch it again. It doesn't matter, man. I remember people saying the same thing about Bradley/Pacquiao 1, how if you went back & re-watched it in slo-mo and/or with the commentary off -- that Bradley won the fight. And I thought that was laughable at the time.

I was rooting hard for Manny, but he lost. It's over. It's been over. Manny knew (or at least I thought he did) that to win that fight, he would've had to win clearly and look good. Instead he looked borderline disinterested and mustered up the most anemic offensive output of his career. That was a winnable fight because Floyd didn't even have one single memorable moment from that fight, but Manny did next to nothing to capitalize on that. You gotta go above and beyond to leave no doubt in the swing rounds against Floyd, or else those are rounds in the bank for FMJ. The blame is on Manny because they knew what they had to do, and not only did they not do it, they didn't even come close.

[Johnwoo8686]

Gurrero fell for the same deception millions of others did: Mayweather's speed was so fast MOST didn't realize that his PUNCHES WERE NOT Landing on Pacquiao. Pacquiao blocked about 90% of Mayweather's shots with his gloves and arms. The other 10% of Mayweather's landed shots were shots that didn't fully connect... Pacquiao didn't do that much either, but he did more than Mayweather and clearly dominated at least two rounds..

Pac landed more shots, the better-harder shots, and was the aggressor in more rounds.

If you haven't watched the fight in slow motion please do so, it's pretty clear that Mayweather did not land anywhere near what compubox stated (See Cotto v. Mayweather fight as well where there are clear rounds where compubox was just so off target with its punch totals it's beyond laughable.)

To beat Mayweather in Vegas, you have to dominate the round..you can't just win..but the Slow motion replay of May-Pac clearly shows Pac the winner. And this isn't the first time Mayweather has lost a fight either: See Castillo 1 and Maidana 1

I've watched the fight several times and even did the slow motion thing and I tell you the most Manny won were FOUR rounds. A lot of you are over estimating Manny's effectiveness with his offense and underestimating just how effective Floyd's jab was. You guy are crediting shots that DID NOT land for Manny and and not crediting Floyd for shots that he DID land. Yes, Manny was able to evade and block some shots but he ate a lot of jabs and counter right hands. I've never seen Floyd land his jab that easily and consistently on any opponent, especially a southpaw.

I scored the fight 9 to 3. You could argue Manny won an additional round, which was a close round at that, but that is all. You guys are ignoring how a fight is scored just to suit a warped agenda.

[El-blanco]

Thing is bro, fights aren't scored in slo-mo as you know. They're scored in real time live.

I watched the fight once, and have no desire to watch it again. It doesn't matter, man. I remember people saying the same thing about Bradley/Pacquiao 1, how if you went back & re-watched it in slo-mo and/or with the commentary off -- that Bradley won the fight. And I thought that was laughable at the time.

I was rooting hard for Manny, but he lost. It's over. It's been over. Manny knew (or at least I thought he did) that to win that fight, he would've had to win clearly and look good. Instead he looked borderline disinterested and mustered up the most anemic offensive output of his career. That was a winnable fight because Floyd didn't even have one single memorable moment from that fight, but Manny did next to nothing to capitalize on that. You gotta go above and beyond to leave no doubt in the swing rounds against Floyd, or else those are rounds in the bank for FMJ. The blame is on Manny because they knew what they had to do, and not only did they not do it, they didn't even come close.

Yea it was a pathetic performance by both, the fight literally looked like a sparring session.

[IronDanHamza]

Maybe 1-month isn't long enough to forget about the "FOTC" but for me, when the guy you wanted to win got white washed, and the fight was extremely uneventful... I say "you're milking this aren't ya, B scene?"

On an interesting note, I seen my Pacman eats $ shirt in the trash bin ripped to shreds. I'm still trying to remember if I ripped it to complete shreds in a backed out drunken rage the night of the fight or... I know for sure, I was shirtless right after the fight. I think someone picked the shirt up out of my backyard somewhere.

Literally laughed out loud at the second paragraph.