Do you think Povetkin is on PEDs?

[Elroy1]

Pain man.. You ought to just leave this topic alone..

Your a good poster and all that but you over extended yourself with this topic I reckon, it happens to all of us LOL

Natas has pounced and levelled you good, given he's from America by the looks, he is clearly in a position here of NOT being biased in what he says too.

Don't wanna end up like that OneMoreRound guy or anything ey

Moving on...

[PainfromUkraine]

See, exactly what I'm talking about. "Typical Russian denial thing?" You're stereotyping Russians. Your agenda is in the open. You don't like the things I'm saying and you say it's typical Russian denial? I'm not even Russian you dolt.




WTF are you even talking about? I would go with a PED option? You literally make no sense here.



Yeah man, we get it. You're not accusing him of PEDs, just making a thread for everyone to see while laying down numerous points as to why you suspect he MIGHT be on PEDs ("he's Russian, duh!" & "he KO'd some mediocre heavyweights!", etc.). Real slick.



So is America. There are more steroids cases in the US than any other country. Baseball alone has had 100 players suspended from PED's since 2005. That's one hundred. Are we going to suspect every american boxer of PED's just because his country has a reputation for PEDs?

1. I disagree that it's stereotyping. It's something that is a known trait in the Russian psyche. In fact it has been documented in books.

2. So you're not Russian, yet you are having a panic attack over anything resembling criticism over a Russian boxer, defend Russia in every thread about it, and have a Cyrillic letter in your username. Cool story bro.

3. The PED option means you would suspect PEDs are the cause of enhanced performance, not things like training or changes in diet/supplementation.

4. Mediocre heavyweights? I repeat, these last 3 opponents were arguably some of the best competition he has fought in his career prior to Wlad! Sudden change in power and performance aged 35 causes su****ion. Only reason you think I have an agenda is because you think my dislike for Russia leads me to specifically picking on Povetkin. If Povetkin was ****ing Chinese or Nigerian or Australian, i'd be just as su****ious.

5. No, but we can suspect American boxers if they suddenly seem to gain extra power and start knocking out fighters never been knocked out before. Let's take a fighter who fights mainly in America - JMM - he suddenly seemed to gain power and everyone is accusing him of PEDs, but that's no bias because it's not a national rivalry thing?

[ИATAS]

1. I disagree that it's stereotyping. It's something that is a known trait in the Russian psyche. In fact it has been documented in books.

"It's not stereotyping"..."it's a known train in the Russian psyche".

You. just. fucking. stereotyped. AGAIN!

You literally can't make this stuff up, folks!

2. So you're not Russian, yet you are having a panic attack over anything resembling criticism over a Russian boxer, defend Russia in every thread about it, and have a Cyrillic letter in your username. Cool story bro.

Panic attack? No, I absolutely despise people accusing others of PEDs for literally no reason at all. It's a terrible thing to do.

Cyrillic letter in my name? My god man, please stop!


Natas = Satan. Thus the backwards N.

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I'm just going to stop here there is no point going further I'll spare you from further embarrassment. Please stop posting in this thread, let it die.

[SN!PER]

I have no idea if he's on PEDS or not, but I believe his weight is higher than usual right now. Comparing video footage and photos can often reveal su****ious changes in an athlete's body. Try examining images of Povetkin at age 30 with today at age 35.

One thing I find funny about this KO 1 victory is how quickly fans are hyping him as the new #1 in the heavyweight division. Some of the same people rooting for him now claimed not long ago that we're in the "era of big men," and guys who were David Haye size supposedly couldn't compete with the big men. I guess Povetkin has changed their opinions when it comes to size!

[bigjavi973]

Why does this happen after every dominating KO? Can't we simply enjoy the sport anymore without doubting everything that happens? IF someone fails a test, then we can discuss it. But it is time this crap stops and if you have doubts, then go follow some other sport that you know is perfectly above board and clean like baseball or cycling.

Baseball & cycling???

[PainfromUkraine]

The funniest thing is, the votes are all that's needed to be looked at for the results of this discussion. More people have voted maybe/not sure and yes combined, than those that have voted for no. Hence, the starting of the discussion was vindicated and has been shown that more people were su****ious of Povetkin than those that weren't.

Let me reiterate, I will say for the (5th?) time - innocent till proven guilty. If Povetkin is really reaping the rewards of hard work and pure training (an option I wouldn't have included in the poll options if I had an agenda and didn't want this to be a fair discussion) then good work and good luck to him, I want him to get a second chance v Wlad with a fair ref.

If he is proven to be guilty of PED use at some point, I will return and have a laugh at this.

[SN!PER]

Baseball & cycling???

Hahaha.... well.... there's always figure skating, that's probably still clean.

[dan_cov]

So now he cannot lose his puppy fat and gain more muscle, get in better shape without PEDs

8lbs & replacing all that fat with muscle with his training schedule? at his age in such a short timeframe, no. Its not humanly possible.

[ShoulderRoll]

I think it's a fair question to ask. This guy at one point was an underwhelming boxer who many forum members used to call Pussvetkin. He arguably lost to a cruiserweight.

But now suddenly he's a beast who is knocking out heavyweight contenders left and right? That does tend to raise eyebrows even if it doesn't definitively prove anything.

Should the fight with Wilder get made I hope they both agree to USADA or VADA just to ease any doubts about possible PED use.

[TheGreatA]

I believe he started working out.

His physique isn't something that is unattainable without steroids. These are human beings in there and sometimes you just don't train as hard as you should. The loss to Klitschko probably lit a fire under him, once he realized how big the gap was to becoming truly the best.

Not that I honestly care at this point if people use or not.