Best inside game at 147?

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He's not an inside fighter in terms of that being his calling card but can he fight on the inside when need be? Most definitely. In fact, I'd go so far as to see he is a better fighter when he closes down range rather than being at range, look at guys like Bradley and John outboxing him, they did it at range. JMM is a same time counter puncher who likes to get in a scrap, being on the inside helps with that sort of style.

Nah...Marquez doesn't "close down range". He steps back and invites YOU TO HIS RANGE, to where he can land his combinations and then change angles. Rinse and repeat. Marquez runs into trouble when his opponent gets in his chest and typically moves out of harms way.

[IronDanHamza]

No, JMM is not an infighter at all and I barely seem him do it. In fact, he avoids it. Are we talking about the same thing?

Precisely what I was going to say.

He avoids it, he's not comfortable there.

If someone forces the fight he's constantly trying to create distance. That's his home.

[IronDanHamza]

Nah...Marquez doesn't "close down range". He steps back and invites YOU TO HIS RANGE, to where he can land his combinations and then change angles. Rinse and repeat. Marquez runs into trouble when his opponent gets in his chest and typically moves out of harms way.

Can honestly say I don't think I've ever seen Marqeuz "close down range" other than when he has his guy hurt.

Marqeuz never forces the fight, he never try's to get onto the inside.

To say Marquez is better when he's closing a guy down as opposed to when he's at range is mind boggling.

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Not many do these days.

Back to your earlier point.

Not many fighters seen to have that skill.

I think Broner's inside game is decent.

I don't rate him highly but he does seen to have decent inside skills, looks very good inside against Demarco.

He's not overly good obviously but seems to have basic skills.

Broner can throw short, crisp punches and has good hand speed at close range. His problem is that he can't transition from defense to offense like a Mayweather/Toney/Whitaker/Duran/Chavez, etc. Once you start throwing punches he stops and either backs out of harms way or shells up. Mayweather will roll counter, slip counter, etc.

[IronDanHamza]

Broner can throw short, crisp punches and has good hand speed at close range. His problem is that he can't transition from defense to offense like a Mayweather/Toney/Whitaker/Duran/Chavez, etc. Once you start throwing punches he stops and either backs out of harms way or shells up. Mayweather will roll counter, slip counter, etc.

Precisely, precisely.

Good observation.

[SplitSecond]

Matthysse usually starts off boxing, feeling his opponent out and ramps it up. He can do a bit of everything but I feel he is clearly a pressure fighter.

Depends how you access styles I guess. To me a pressure fighter is someone who comes forward, constantly making you work with regard for their defense.
A brawler pretty much the same with no regard for defense ala Brandon Rios.

As for the question above; John Molina, he did some beautiful work on the inside in that fight. Soto, Ajose Olusegun, Corley.

agreed on all parts

[dan_cov]

Marquez needs room to operate. That is what makes him Marquez those half steps back so he can bring those trademark uppercuts and hooks into play which work beautifully against fighters who come forward.
I'd say he was probably a bit uncomfortable on the inside. From what I recall he was having big trouble when trapped on the ropes and Katsidis was on his chest, it wasn't until he created distance he got his shots off.

[SplitSecond]

Broner can throw short, crisp punches and has good hand speed at close range. His problem is that he can't transition from defense to offense like a Mayweather/Toney/Whitaker/Duran/Chavez, etc. Once you start throwing punches he stops and either backs out of harms way or shells up. Mayweather will roll counter, slip counter, etc.

floyd has a good rope game, haven't seen much in the center of the ring, although i vaguely remember some moments with corley, although nothing spectacular about his inside fighting there he got hit at will unless corley was cowering

how i remember it, correct me if im wrong

[dan_cov]

What a fight that was. One of the best I've seen live.

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What a fight that was. One of the best I've seen live.

I actually tried to re-watch it last week and can't find the full fight video anywhere. So I watched Diaz 1 instead.