Al Haymon trying to get Cotto-Mayweather 2

[TMTForever]

when you mention pacquiao and cotto name 20 years from now. we all know who the greater fighter of the 2 were. pacquiao ran right thru cotto. but cotto is better than him. you sound ******.

bottom line, I been a Floyd fan since 1996. but I been a boxing fan before Floyd turned pro and I will be a boxing fan after he retires. there is no reason for Floyd not too fight pacquiao next. you make more excuses for Floyd than he makes for his self. his daddy said its gon happen. his uncles say it should happen. but you wanna see Floyd fight a rematch against somebody he beat already instead of a new fight. if you wanna see floyd fight cotto go too youtube.

real boxing fans wanna see the two biggest names in boxing fight.

******s wanna see a fight they already seen

pacquiao is not a great fighter he is all smoke and mirriors.. cotto has had the greater career in my opinion and i rank him higher all time over pac.

pac did nothing at 130-135-140--147- or 154. besides a bunch of catchweight fights he is nothing special. 20 years from now people will still recognize cotto as the only legitmate 4 weight world champ from puerto rico.

floyd doesn't need to fight a guy scared of needles, he needs to take that 160 title and add to his legacy.

[jcj0427]

pacquiao is not a great fighter he is all smoke and mirriors.. cotto has had the greater career in my opinion and i rank him higher all time over pac.

pac did nothing at 130-135-140--147- or 154. besides a bunch of catchweight fights he is nothing special. 20 years from now people will still recognize cotto as the only legitmate 4 weight world champ from puerto rico.

floyd doesn't need to fight a guy scared of needles, he needs to take that 160 title and add to his legacy.

Cotto better career over Pac? Wow dude, you must be a serious Pac hater or a serious Cotto **** rider. Either way, you cant be serious...

[TMTForever]

Cotto better career over Pac? Wow dude, you must be a serious Pac hater or a serious Cotto **** rider. Either way, you cant be serious...

i'm very serious..pac had 1 fight at 135 - david diaz
1 fight at 140- washed up ricky hatton

and 9 fights above 147

1. hoya washed up
2. mosley washed up
3. marquez twice 1-1
4. bradley twice 1-1
5. cotto
6. clottey
7. margarito- washed up fake title on the line
8. rios - seriously
9. algeri - seriosuly

cotto has fought far superior oppostion over his last 12 fights copmpared to pacquiao.

cotto is the recognized champ at 160 what is pac right now.. and with jesse vargas and terrence crawford coming up next for pac the gap get's wider in cottos favor.

[Beater_of_ass]

Your boy did that number as well his last outing, lets not forget that. Floyd/Cotto 2 will not come anywhere near 1.4 buys if it were to happen again. The first time around it was a big relevant fight. There is no logical reason for a rematch, it was a one-sided fight, only you Cotto fans want to see it because theres no risk involved in fighting Floyd, where losing to him is not the worse thing. If Floyd does fight Cotto it would be just to spite Canelo for taking his "dates".

A hypothetical Canelo/GGG ppv will do way better then Angulo or Lara 300k buys. If I had to compare it, it would probably something along the lines of a Chavez Jr/Martinez 500k buys. Possibly even more since Canelo is a bigger star then Chavez Jr was, and GGG is considered the best in his division just like Martinez was back in 2012...

If it wasn't a competitive fight why did Floyd say it was his hardest fight ever? People were saying Cotto was going to be Gatti'd by Floyd and it got 1.5 million and Cotto made people say Floyd was getting old That was like 4 years ago now, Floyd is just now starting to get old and slow down it wasn't 4 years ago.

Also Canelo's best draw was 300k without Floyd. Cotto did 1.25 million, or 600k without Pac it's still double Canelo's best drawing power. Just stop, Canelo is not a bigger draw or even a better fighter than Cotto.

[Beater_of_ass]

cotto has a better chance of beating canelo than he does beating Floyd.

and cotto has never cracked a million ppv without Floyd or pacquiao as the A side.

cotto is a great draw at the gate. he isn't that big of a draw on ppv. cotto did the same 300k with Martinez a fighter that has been on ppv before, that canelo did with lara a guy who has never been on ppv.

Margarito had never been on PPV and Cotto got 400k with him. Cotto even got Paulie on PPV and got 275k buys and neither guy had been on PPV before that. Cotto's WORST buyrate without Manny or Floyd is about the same as Canelo's BEST buyrate without an A side.

[The Big Dunn]

i'm very serious..pac had 1 fight at 135 - david diaz
1 fight at 140- washed up ricky hatton

and 9 fights above 147

1. hoya washed up
2. mosley washed up
3. marquez twice 1-1
4. bradley twice 1-1
5. cotto
6. clottey
7. margarito- washed up fake title on the line
8. rios - seriously
9. algeri - seriosuly

cotto has fought far superior oppostion over his last 12 fights copmpared to pacquiao.

cotto is the recognized champ at 160 what is pac right now.. and with jesse vargas and terrence crawford coming up next for pac the gap get's wider in cottos favor.

cotto was 145, not above 147. Sorry to correct you homie.

[duwdu]

your whole argument is false..it's based on your own distorted view of boxing being a floyd vs pac fight.. let me clarify something for you...floyd has lineal titles in 4 weight classes and 5 wbc titles ( most in history).

floyd had a legacy before pac came on the scene in 2008. floyd's legacy is to retire undefeated winning 6 titles (5 lineal) in 6 weight classes the first fighter to win titles from 130-160 undefeated against legit champions at the weight. that carries far more wight than a pac fight since pac has no legacy at 147-154 or 160.

pac is not competing against the best right now cotto is so floyd should jump on this chance to solidify his legacy with a fight against cotto who is also a legit 4 weight world champion himself.

the pac hype train is over..pac is fighting rios, algeri, and vargas he is finished as a fighter at the weight classes floyd competes at.

^^^A very solid post. Thanks for articulating the issues so well.

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[MrRolltide91]

The rematch would probably be even more competitive than the first fight

[MrRolltide91]

As if I don't already hate boxing too damn much sometimes, Mayweather winning a bogus MW title might make me stop watching for a few months. Sad thing is, I knew this was a strong possibility the moment Cotto/Martinez was made.

Lol I doubt it.

[MrRolltide91]

I don't mind seeing Cotto and Floyd fight at all. Floyd hasn't looked too hot -- I suspect it could be even more competitive this time around.

As far as bogus title, most of them are. Sucks. We see every fight like that coming...months in advance since that's when fights are announced. So I don't think that's an issue. If you didn't stop watching when Manny fought for a catchweight title against a Margarito who hadn't accomplished anything at that weight...we'll get over this one. At least Cotto beat the man and, more important, it's actually a competitive matchup.

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cotto has looked better than floyd in the ring lately.