Dissecting Golovkin's MW Reign

[jas]

No one knows ggg in england

[T18Z]

Walk down the street and ask 100....or 1000 people who Gennady Golovkin is and you'd be lucky if 2 knew who he was.

You are talking about random people, not boxing fans. Random people in the UK don't buy tickets or PPV events. Random people wouldn't know the difference between Degale or Golovkin, it makes no difference because they don't even watch the sport.

Boxing fans know who GGG is, and boxing fans are the ones who buy tickets, it's that simple.

[IronDanHamza]

You are talking about random people, not boxing fans. Random people in the UK don't buy or watch boxing, it's a 'closed' sport in the sense that you either watch it or know nothing about it. The same people who don't know GGG also wouldn't know **** about who Degale is either.

Boxing fans know who GGG is, and boxing fans are the ones who buy tickets, it's that simple.

Well that's false.

Froch-Degale would bring in casuals.

The big domestic fights always draw in casuals here.

Obviously Froch-Degale would massively outsell Froch-Golovkin over here that's not even remotely debatable.

[T18Z]

Well that's false.

Froch-Degale would bring in casuals.

The big domestic fights always draw in casuals here.

Obviously Froch-Degale would massively outsell Froch-Golovkin over here that's not even remotely debatable.

I don't get it, you are happy to comment on casuals when it involves Degale, but fail to see that 'casuals' follow knockouts, which is something GGG specializes in, and not Degale. Any fight with Froch would draw in casuals, but are you trying to tell me casuals wouldn't want to see someone with a 90% KO ratio from Europe?

Lastly, I never stated Degale wouldn't outsell, I stated Golovkin isn't unknown in the UK, and the same people who don't know Golovkin would not know Degale either, unless it's their friends who are inviting them to the fight. In which case their friends would be able to tell them about the reputation GGG has, inviting casuals.

I don't get it, do people honestly think there's so little boxing fans in the world that these stadiums are filled with people who have never watched a fight in their life?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Dual ppv means 3am in the uk, the numbers plummet I dont live in the uk and i can categorically state that anyone that follows boxing in the uk knows ggg, and is salivating over the fight. I never said more people know ggg vs degale, but i think the ggg fight mght do even better than degale in the uk cause it would carry massive hype. it's an international boxing event

A dual PPV means here's two revenue streams. How can you not understand this?

Everyone who follows boxing in the UK? Yeah so the handful of hardcore boxing fans.

The vast majority of those who went to the Groves fight won't have a clue who the hell GGG is because they werent all hardcore fans


They'll know James DeGale though. This is just reality. "Might do better" - lol come on dude, even you aren't convinced by your own argument.

[Craveman]

The Cotto fight may happen but I think GGG needs to step it up and take no **** from his promotional team, get him Murray, N'Jikam, take a massive pay cut for Cotto, move up to 168 for Ward/Froch and not Junior.

This is what I think anyway.

That's the problem with boxing nowadays, it's strictly business and Golovkin himself is a problem, he's too scary. I think the best way forward is to fight possible opponent who is free and willing to fight Golovkin. So Golovkin need to grab that Ward fight because Ward is really only one of two boxers been has been vocal about fighting Golovkin. And Chavez, the other guy, would probably fight Froch if he get his **** sorted.

So all we have to do is wait for Ward to sort out his problem ASAP.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

You are talking about random people, not boxing fans. Random people in the UK don't buy tickets or PPV events. Random people wouldn't know the difference between Degale or Golovkin, it makes no difference because they don't even watch the sport.

Boxing fans know who GGG is, and boxing fans are the ones who buy tickets, it's that simple.

Wow you are painfully out of touch on this issue.

Casual fans are what drives ticket and PPV sales.

[T18Z]

Wow you are painfully out of touch on this issue.

Casual fans are what drives ticket and PPV sales.

Casual fans are still boxing fans, did I ever state any different? I never said HARDCORE fans drive ticket sales, I said boxing fans. If you watch enough boxing to know who Degale is, I'm sure you'd of heard of GGG once or twice.

You grossly misinterpret what I mean. You attempt to discredit GGG's following in the UK and essentially state casual fans don't know him. I'm saying if you are a casual fan, you are probably someone who follows knockouts too, just like Tyson brought in a big fan base because of his style, the same applies to Gennady.

[IronDanHamza]

I don't get it, you are happy to comment on casuals when it involves Degale, but fail to see that 'casuals' follow knockouts, which is something GGG specializes in, and not Degale. Any fight with Froch would draw in casuals, but are you trying to tell me casuals wouldn't want to see someone with a 90% KO ratio from Europe?

Lastly, I never stated Degale wouldn't outsell, I stated Golovkin isn't unknown in the UK, and the same people who don't know Golovkin would not know Degale either, unless it's their friends who are inviting them to the fight. In which case their friends (whom are boxing fans obviously) would be able to tell them about the reputation GGG has, inviting casuals.

I don't get it, do people honestly think there's so little boxing fans in the world that these stadiums are filled with people who have never watched a fight in their life?

Casuals drive the PPV. That's the reason Haye-Harrison did big numbers because the casuals brought it.

The casuals have no idea who Golovkin is here. No idea what so ever.

To say the same people who don't know Golvkin also don't know James Degale is absolutely absurd.

[Eastcoast]

Lol he fought a guy that quit against Pavlik years ago, if he was chasing greatness he wouldnt be ducking #2 P4P, and fighting his way through the Taxi Cab union. Great ones take the challenge, he fights bum of the week. The guy beat the count and ref gave him a KO against a guy with gray hair. You guys want Floyd to fight a MW to take a challenge, but dont ask this guy to move up one division be consistent with your complaints then you wont be seen as fanboys and maybe he would get credit from more boxi.....well slugging fans

In Bernard's prime did he move up and fight Calzaghe or Ottke? No, he waited for Trinidad & DelaHoya to move up. Hagler shouted for SRL to come back and fight him. Monzon defined himself against the great WW champion Griffith. So here we have three of the top 5 greatest MW's, who's biggest fights were based on men from the lighter ranks. Enough talk about Golovkin needing to move up and fight Ward to define his greatness. If Ward is still a relevant fighter after Golovkin has completely conquered MW, then he can get his.