Dissecting Golovkin's MW Reign

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Yes, unless you have a textbook definition of what the term 'fan' actually means, then no, you're wrong. I don't care whether you put the term hardcore or casual infront of the word fan, they're still a fan of the sport, just on different degrees.

I stated boxing fans drive ticket sales, I'm not sure how you could refute that, but ok.

Once again, he's not unknown in the UK as you believe. Do you even watch box nation? Lemme guess, only 'hardcore fans' watch box nation, right?

Yes. Quite literally YES. BoxNation is a subscription based boxing only channel. Their long term and consistent subscribers are hardcore boxing fans. It's not a huge base of people. Are you trolling or what?!?

Golovkin is on Sky anyway and is shown at 4am. No one watches him except hardcore fans.

Casuals can be people who have absolutely no clue about boxing. Grandmothers will turn out to watch James DeGale just because of his Olympic Medal for the country or they'll watch Carl Froch because he was on Tumble.

GGG literally has zero casual fanbase.

[T18Z]

Yes only hardcore fans watch Boxnation. Is that a serious question?

It's a boxing subscription channel.

You don't even have a classification for what a hardcore fan of a sport even is, yet you have the data to suggest ONLY these kind of people watch box nation? My uncle is probably what you'd class as a 'casual', has all the sports channels bought and is subscribed to BN, but doesn't watch boxing very much, so your theory is invalid.

I never said the majority of people on box nation were 'casuals', I said you'd be foolish to believe every single one of them is hardcore, and even more foolish to try and DEFINE a term that is totally made up, rofl.

[IronDanHamza]

You don't even have a classification for what a hardcore fan of a sport even is, yet you have the data to suggest ONLY these kind of people watch box nation? My uncle is probably what you'd class as a 'casual', has all the sports channels bought and is subscribed to BN, but doesn't watch boxing very much, so your theory is invalid.

You can't actually be seriously saying that casual fans subscribe to an exclusive boxing channel??

It is a subscription channel, for boxing, exclusively boxing. Casual fans on obviously don't subscribe to that and if they do it's obviously going to be very very minimal.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

You don't even have a classification for what a hardcore fan of a sport even is, yet you have the data to suggest ONLY these kind of people watch box nation? My uncle is probably what you'd class as a 'casual', has all the sports channels bought and is subscribed to BN, but doesn't watch boxing very much, so your theory is invalid.

Then your uncle is an idiot who likes wasting money. Why the hell would he be subscribed to a boxing only channel if he doesn't watch boxing very much? LOL.....even if that's true, it's one very extreme case of mild ******ation.

Long time BoxNation subscribers are hardcore boxing fans. It's not even something that is up for discussion.

[T18Z]

You can't actually be seriously saying that casual fans subscribe to an exclusive boxing channel??

It is a subscription channel, for boxing, exclusively boxing. Casual fans on obviously don't subscribe to that and if they do it's obviously going to be very very minimal.

Until you find a definition for the term casual fan, all you're saying right now is pointless. You have no parameters for your statements because even you don't know what 'casual' means in the sport of boxing. You also didn't bother to read what I initially wrote, I said I bet you think only hardcore fans WATCH box nation. What about all the families who's parents buy the channel, and the kids/teenagers watch every now and then? Are they not 'casual' fans WATCHING box nation?

[T18Z]

Then your uncle is an idiot who likes wasting money. Why the hell would he be subscribed to a boxing only channel if he doesn't watch boxing very much? LOL.....even if that's true, it's one very extreme case of mild ******ation.

Long time BoxNation subscribers are hardcore boxing fans. It's not even something that is up for discussion.

I don't question why he does it, I personally don't care. Money is only wasted if you regret spending it you moron, think about that for a second. If he has the money to spend and wants to watch a boxing match a few times a month, who gives a **** dumbass? It's not your money.

[IronDanHamza]

Until you find a definition for the term casual fan, all you're saying right now is pointless. You have no parameters for your statements because even you don't know what 'casual' means in the sport of boxing. You also didn't bother to read what I initially wrote, I said I bet you think only hardcore fans WATCH box nation. What about all the families who's parents buy the channel, and the kids watch every now and then? Are they not casual fans WATCHING box nation?

Parents buy the channel? you can't be serious.

What kind of parent is going to subscribe 12 pounds a month to a boxing channel?

Yes only hardcores subscribe to Boxnation that is basic common sense. Or the vast vast majority atleast.

I'm stunned this is being discussed.

[b00g13man]

Parents buy the channel? you can't be serious.

What kind of parent is going to subscribe 12 pounds a month to a boxing channel?

Yes only hardcores subscribe to Boxnation that is basic common sense. Or the vast vast majority atleast.

I'm stunned this is being discussed.

I'm as shocked as you are.

[T18Z]

Parents buy the channel? you can't be serious.

What kind of parent is going to subscribe 12 pounds a month to a boxing channel?

Yes only hardcores subscribe to Boxnation that is basic common sense. Or the vast vast majority atleast.

I'm stunned this is being discussed.

A father who wants to watch boxing, that's what kind of parent? Why is that even a question?

Once again, you didn't read my initial statement, plenty of casual fans can still watch box nation, they can either be part of a very small minority that purchases it without caring much about the money (12 pounds a month isn't a lot), or they can view it via other means, i.e. watching round with their father, friends, room mates, whatever. The whole point was box nation still brings some degree of exposure, whether small or not, to 'casual' fans of boxing. Are you even reading?

I never once said the vast majority of box nation people are casuals, I never once said hardcore fans drive ticket sales, stop ignoring what I type like some kind of spastic. I said not just 'hardcore' people watch box nation, I don't give a **** if it's a small minority, either provide evidence to disprove my statement, or sit down knowing out of 100,000 people subscribed, there's a hell of a good chance you're wrong.

[IronDanHamza]

A father who wants to watch boxing, that's what kind of parent? Why is that even a question?

Once again, you didn't read my initial statement, plenty of casual fans can still watch box nation, they can either be part of a very small minority that purchases it without caring much about the money (12 pounds a month isn't a lot), or they can view it via other means, i.e. watching round with their father, friends, room mates, whatever. The whole point was box nation still brings some degree of exposure, whether small or not, to 'casual' fans of boxing. Are you even reading?

£12 a month for one channel isn't a lot? Do you live in the real world?

If you pay 12 pounds a month for a boxing channel then you're a hardcore fan of boxing. You most definitely aren't casual.

"Families of a dad who watches boxing" are a ridiculously small amount of people.

Casual fans don't tune into Boxnation. It's as simple as that and definitely not to watch Golovkin fight.