Dissecting Golovkin's MW Reign

[IronDanHamza]

You can't honestly believe that Golovkin-Froch would do better than Degale-Froch.

Not only will it not do better and wouldn't even come close to it.

[HeroBando]

A dual PPV means here's two revenue streams. How can you not understand this?

Everyone who follows boxing in the UK? Yeah so the handful of hardcore boxing fans.

The vast majority of those who went to the Groves fight won't have a clue who the hell GGG is because they werent all hardcore fans


They'll know James DeGale though. This is just reality. "Might do better" - lol come on dude, even you aren't convinced by your own argument.

There's already 2 revenue streams, the uk ppv and hbo license fee. hbo is not showing degale, man

so why isn't anyone going to see degale otherwise, given his name recognition? instead he ends up on undercards in canada on short notice

[HeroBando]

You can't honestly believe that Golovkin-Froch would do better than Degale-Froch.

Not only will it not do better and wouldn't even come close to it.

I think it might. GGG would have massive hype internationally, and he's gotten more coverage in the UK than most any other foreign boxer. They just need to replay his highlights (with English commentators), and it sells itself.

[IronDanHamza]

I think it might. GGG would have massive hype internationally, and he's gotten more coverage in the UK than most any other foreign boxer. They just need to replay his highlights (with English commentators), and it sells itself.

It doesn't matter what you think.

It will not.

[T18Z]

Casuals drive the PPV. That's the reason Haye-Harrison did big numbers because the casuals brought it.

The casuals have no idea who Golovkin is here. No idea what so ever.

To say the same people who don't know Golvkin also don't know James Degale is absolutely absurd.

Refer to previous post for your initial sentence.

I'm just finding it funny, really. We're going back and forth with anecdotal, you claim nobody knows GGG, I say otherwise. I claim box nation is an easy platform for exposure for GGG in the UK and state his style is something the 'casual' fans can enjoy and follow.

I never said Degale would sell less, or is less known in the UK, I'm saying a fight with Froch-GGG in the UK would get heavy exposure, by 3 weeks before the fight most people would have an idea who GGG is by the word of mouth that follows his style and knockouts, sheesh.

GGG brings something Degale does not, a European fan base.

[jas]

In Bernard's prime did he move up and fight Calzaghe or Ottke? No, he waited for Trinidad & DelaHoya to move up. Hagler shouted for SRL to come back and fight him. Monzon defined himself against the great WW champion Griffith. So here we have three of the top 5 greatest MW's, who's biggest fights were based on men from the lighter ranks. Enough talk about Golovkin needing to move up and fight Ward to define his greatness. If Ward is still a relevant fighter after Golovkin has completely conquered MW, then he can get his.

You're comparing ottke to de la hoya and calzaghe to Trinidad????

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Casual fans are still boxing fans, did I ever state any different? I never said HARDCORE fans drive ticket sales, I said boxing fans. If you watch enough boxing to know who Degale is, I'm sure you'd of heard of GGG once or twice.

You grossly misinterpret what I mean. You attempt to discredit GGG's following in the UK and essentially state casual fans don't know him. I'm saying if you are a casual fan, you are probably someone who follows knockouts too, just like Tyson brought in a big fan base because of his style, the same applies to Gennady.

Well no....not necessarily. That's why they're casual fans. They show up for the big events and don't tend to watch much else.

Once again, you seem very out of touch on this issue. No one knows who Golovkin is here.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

It doesn't matter what you think.

It will not.

LOL....all his arguments are "I think" or "it might"

No mate, it categorically will not. In the real world, it will not.

[T18Z]

Well no....not necessarily. That's why they're casual fans. They show up for the big events and don't tend to watch much else.

Once again, you seem very out of touch on this issue. No one knows who Golovkin is here.

Yes, unless you have a textbook definition of what the term ' boxing fan' actually means, then no, you're wrong. I don't care whether you put the term hardcore or casual in front of the word fan, they're still a fan of the sport, just on different degrees. Do you have to now contribute an arbitrary number of hours or invest a certain amount of income to now be classed as a fan of a sport?

I stated boxing fans drive ticket sales, I'm not sure how you could refute that, but ok, keep trying.

Once again, he's not unknown in the UK as you believe. Do you even watch box nation? Lemme guess, only 'hardcore fans' watch box nation, right? Despite it being dirt cheap and a means to easy entertainment and a quick scrap, it's reserved for only the hardcore I bet.

[IronDanHamza]

Yes, unless you have a textbook definition of what the term 'fan' actually means, then no, you're wrong. I don't care whether you put the term hardcore or casual infront of the word fan, they're still a fan of the sport, just on different degrees.

I stated boxing fans drive ticket sales, I'm not sure how you could refute that, but ok.

Once again, he's not unknown in the UK as you believe. Do you even watch box nation? Lemme guess, only 'hardcore fans' watch box nation, right?

Yes only hardcore fans watch Boxnation. Is that a serious question?

It's a boxing subscription channel.