Bob Arum is a genius.

[megadeth]

Stop answering a question with a question directed at Pacman ...you do realize that?

In other words you have no answer?

Why are fights that Pac wouldn't take "safe fights" for Floyd? Are you saying he is the superior fighter?

[megadeth]

Stop answering a question with a question directed at Pacman ...you do realize that?

Pacman is a challenge to Mayweather as he is a fast southpaw so it's a safer fight. Regards to your logic, floyd ducked JMM because he set a higher CW?

Not unless Pac ducked him as well since he wouldn't fight him at 140.

[HeGotPacProblem]

Not unless Pac ducked him as well since he wouldn't fight him at 140.

Ok Pac ducked them because he beat both of them at catchweights and Mayweather ducked JMM and Canelo for the catchweight...so those wins doesn't count. Cool.

[megadeth]

Ok Pac ducked them because he beat both of them at catchweights and Mayweather ducked JMM and Canelo for the catchweight...so wins doen't count. Cool.

You are still not explaining how Floyd fights "safe" fights, while Pac fights challenges? He is fighting fighters that Pac is unwilling to fight. Sounds to me like you are being bias and won't admit the truth. If anything Pac is the one figting safe fights.

[HeGotPacProblem]

You are still not explaining how Floyd fights "safe" fights, while Pac fights challenges? He is fighting fighters that Pac is unwilling to fight. Sounds to me like you are being bias and won't admit the truth. If anything Pac is the one figting safe fights.

Take your Floyd shades off. Safe fight meaning not taking Pacman...I'm not even talking about their resumes. Pacman is not a safe fight...doesn't mean he will win or lose. PAC is a fast southpaw with power...A lot different than what May fights. The only guy like that is Judah and Judah gave May a dogfight early on and forced May to be agressive rather than defensive like he usually does since was losing. The only thing you post here are rhetorical questions flipped and turned around on Pacman.

[luisivich]

Pacquiao was only p4p #1 because Mayweather retired. Let's not get it twisted. I never thought Pac was worth 50/50 even. However, it was fair at that time to offer 50/50 because Pacquiao's star had risen while Floyd was away. That was the best chance of the fight taking place.

I also don't think it was fair to offer flat out 40 mill, but at least it was an offer. Is it better or worse than saying you will fight and give all the money to charity, when everyone knows that was bs as well? Pacuaio was probably never serious about that, like you guys said, but he did hint that money is not the main issue. But if that was the case, why not take the 40 mill and shut Floyd up in the ring? If he's gonna use "fighting for charity" just to call Floyd out, then damn, I wish he would have said, "You know what, just give me that 40 mill and let's do it."

i always believe that history should be studied on on the proper time frame and context of that time frame.
1. the 40 million offer was offered before manny loss to marquez. and manny p4p number 1.
2. manny's give to charity" quote happen 2 years later as a reply to floyd comments of "manny is just doing it for money" "manny doing it because he has tax problems" floyd has commented this quotes because manny is calling him out.

if you'll not be putting your narratives in the proper time frame and context then it is called a spin.

[megadeth]

Take your Floyd shades off. Safe fight meaning not taking Pacman...I'm not even talking about their resumes. The only thing you posts here are questions turned around on Pacman.

No the only thing I turn around are double standards and many Pac stans have lots of them when it comes to Floyd. Like the one you have now. IF Floyd is being safe not fighting Pac, then Pac was being just as safe not fighting Floyd, seeing that we have already come to the conclusion that the first negotiation was Pac's fault.

[HeGotPacProblem]

No the only thing I turn around are double standards and many Pac stans have lots of them when it comes to Floyd. Like the one you have now. IF Floyd is being safe not fighting Pac, then Pac was being just as safe not fighting Floyd, seeing that we have already come to the conclusion that the first negotiation was Pac's fault.

Safe from what? Like I said Pacman is 57-5....does it hurt him as much by losing to Mayweather than vice versa? Whats he going to lose? His career and legacy isnt cemented by an undefeated record. He's not fighting to preserve a 0.

Pacman went toe to toe with JMM in fights and he still wanted a 5th fight...thats 1 of the main differences between him and Floyd. Manny really fights for his love of boxing and the fans unlike Floyd who is lip service.

[megadeth]

Take your Floyd shades off. Safe fight meaning not taking Pacman...I'm not even talking about their resumes. Pacman is not a safe fight...doesn't mean he will win or lose. PAC is a fast southpaw with power...A lot different than what May fights. The only guy like that is Judah and Judah gave May a dogfight early on and forced May to be agressive rather than defensive like he usually does since was losing. The only thing you post here are rhetorical questions flipped and turned around on Pacman.

Ok...Floyd has Judah...a FASTER than Floyd Southpaw. Name one slick boxer like a Floyd that Pac has fought. AT LEAST Floyd has Judah. Now name a fighter faster than Pac that he's fought? Again, I post those things cuz you have double standards and never ask the same of Pac.

[Weebler I]

Mr. Arum learned something from the Vietnam War and was able to apply it to the boxing world.

There are a fair amount of people, including myself, who believe that the Vietnam war was not meant to be "won." The war was meant to be sustained because war is big business for international bankers, arms dealers, etc. The war enhanced patriotic sentiment in some, and diminished it in others, but what was of utmost importance was that the money kept rolling in to the greedy rulers of this world.

I never realized how good Arum was at what he has done until talking to fanatical Pacquaio fans lately (which I've avoided doing most of my time at this forum). They really have no idea that Arum had no plans on putting Manny in with Floyd. If he did so, that would "end the war" because he himself believes Manny will lose and all the hype will be over. By not only avoiding the fight, but pretending to want it with bogus negotiations, etc., he could keep the money flowing in from Pacquaio fights and align Pacquaio with the greatest boxer of our generation. That gravy train was to be sustained for as long as possible. It did, however, hit a speed bump with Marquez.

How diabolical. But hey, if you're talking business, we have to admit it's genius. Why do you think Floyd doesn't want to deal with this scum. He knows he was wasting his time.

Surely Floyd is the real genius for brainwashing so many of you goons into believing that he actually wanted the fight in spite of all his contradictions and years of excuses.

Then again, given your collective IQ, it probably wasn't all that hard.