Bob Arum is a genius.

[HeGotPacProblem]

Jesus Christ, man. I'm not referring to B sides vs. A sides. Would it make a difference if I said Boxer 1 vs. Boxer 2.

This is why I want to believe you are just trolling.

Your posts are just trolling for your Pro Floyd propaganda. I'm not the 1 making up threads.

Pacman doesn't have to bend over for all of Floyd's demands when it comes to glove size, venue, purse, drug testing, order of entrance, etc. PACMAN was not the B side so why does he have to bend over for everything? Fight would have been had Floyd wasn't such a control freak and diva.

[travestyny]

A primer for you on the saga. A 50-50 was not offered in 2009.
http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles...toried-rivalry

You are really stubborn. What about the 8 page "draft" yahoo retrieved? What about Roach coming out saying that the first negotiation was their fault? What about it being well known that money was not the issue with the first negotiation, but drug testing was the issue. You need to stop.

You just answer that hypothetical. If you can't man up to that, step away.

[HeGotPacProblem]

You are really stubborn. What about the 8 page "draft" yahoo retrieved? What about Roach coming out saying that the first negotiation was their fault? What about it being well known that money was not the issue with the first negotiation, but drug testing was the issue. You need to stop.

You just answer that hypothetical. If you can't man up to that, step away.

I don't see or hear you cuz it's 2014, not 2009. I'm not going to live in the past like you to defend your favorite boxer. Like I said, I could post all day with the $40 million offer to Pacman or how Pacman agreed to VADA amd less than 50-50 NOW and you would be crickets.

Pacman now: i feel sorry for him...he should have god in his life. Fight me Mayweather. ..talk is cheap.

Mayweather now: he got marquez and tax problems. He got to worry about Algieri first and then we'll see if the opportunity presents itself.

[travestyny]

ok. lets just play along with your narrative. supposing that floyd has handed manny with a signed contract with no cut-off date for blood testing.
and manny has handed floyd a signed contract with a month of cut-off date.
would manny or floyd sign those signed contract. no because they are still negotiating the cut-off date.

Sure. Let's play along.

My only question would be who would you blame more for the fight not happening?

Would that point to Mayweather not wanting the fight? Would he somehow know Pacquiao is supposedly afraid of needles and can't submit to full random drug testing? Keep in mind that Mayweather would be subjected to the same test.

So who would you blame more in that scenario. I know who Pac's own coach blamed more. What do you think?

[travestyny]

I don't see or hear you cuz it's 2014, not 2009. I'm not going to live in the past like you to defend your favorite boxer. Like I said, I could post all day with the $40 million offer to Pacman and how Pacman agreed to VADA amd less than 50-50 NOW and you would be crickets.

The 40 mill that would have been more than he had ever made?

The 40 mill that seemed to be an afterthought when he was saying he'd be willing to give all proceeds to charity?

Hmmmmmm.

[HeGotPacProblem]

The 40 mill that would have been more than he had ever made?

The 40 mill that seemed to be an afterthought when he was saying he'd be willing to give all proceeds to charity?

Hmmmmmm.

$40 m with no PPV $ IS A JOKE WHEN YOU THINK OF THE TOTAL bank from their 1st fight. I'm pretty sure Floyd would have made an astronomically more than he ever made as well so what's your point? If revenue is expected to be $300 million how much is Floyd getting over with than he normally does in a fight?

Pacman answered that jokingly to give you an idea of how much he wants to fight Floyd...no boxer is going to fight with ALL proceeds going to charity.

[luisivich]

Sure. Let's play along.

My only question would be who would you blame more for the fight not happening?

Would that point to Mayweather not wanting the fight? Would he somehow know Pacquiao is supposedly afraid of needles and can't submit to full random drug testing? Keep in mind that Mayweather would be subjected to the same test.

So who would you blame more in that scenario. I know who Pac's own coach blamed more. What do you think?

i dad watched that particular video of dontaenation. if you had watch the whole video and the context where that particular quite comes from then you'll realized that what that particular quate means is" it is our fault because we havent predicted that floyd is such a diva when we offer 3 weeks cut-off , floyd move to zero weeks cut-off and walk away". if you are not biased you'll also mention that at the end of the video roach said that floyd is now avoiding the fight.

Would that point to Mayweather not wanting the fight?
yes because he is handing a contract that he knows that will not be accepted on the same way that manny would hand floyd a contract that has 1 month cut-off date. both parties would not accept such contract while they are still negotiating the cut-off date.

[travestyny]

$40 m with no PPV $ IS A JOKE WHEN YOU THINK OF THE TOTAL bank from their 1st fight. I'm pretty sure Floyd would have made an astronomically more than he ever made as well so what's your point? If revenue is expected to be $300 million how much is Floyd getting over with than he normally does in a fight?

Pacman answered that jokingly...no boxer is going to fight with ALL proceeds going to charity.

You do realize neither of us is going to convince the other of anything. I happen to believe Pac would fight. I also believe Mayweather would fight. The point of this thread was that Arum is a slimy bag of scum and he doesn't want the fight.

Don't know why the Pac fans would ever want to side with him after how he's robbing Pac blind. The dude is shifty. You must admit that at least, right?

I don't actually think Pac is scared. Well, he did seem "scared of needles." lol. Honestly I think that whole thing points to some drug abuse, but yea I believe he'd fight now. I also believe Floyd would fight, but wants Arum to have no part of it, and I don't blame him. Let's hope they make the fight somehow.

I respect that we had this debate and didn't refer to too much trash talking. Seriously. Respect.

[travestyny]

i dad watched that particular video of dontaenation. if you had watch the whole video and the context where that particular quite comes from then you'll realized that what that particular quate means is" it is our fault because we havent predicted that floyd is such a diva when we offer 3 weeks cut-off , floyd move to zero weeks cut-off and walk away". if you are not biased you'll also mention that at the end of the video roach said that floyd is now avoiding the fight.

Would that point to Mayweather not wanting the fight?
yes because he is handing a contract that he knows that will not be accepted on the same way that manny would hand floyd a contract that has 1 month cut-off date. both parties would not accept such contract while they are still negotiating the cut-off date.

Why is a cut-off necessary....in random blood testing? I don't get that. You don't think that's a little su****ious?

[HeGotPacProblem]

You do realize neither of us is going to convince the other of anything. I happen to believe Pac would fight. I also believe Mayweather would fight. The point of this thread was that Arum is a slimy bag of scum and he doesn't want the fight.

Don't know why the Pac fans would ever want to side with him after how he's robbing Pac blind. The dude is shifty. You must admit that at least, right?

I don't actually think Pac is scared. Well, he did seem "scared of needles." lol. Honestly I think that whole thing points to some drug abuse, but yea I believe he'd fight now. I also believe Floyd would fight, but wants Arum to have no part of it, and I don't blame him. Let's hope they make the fight somehow.

I respect that we had this debate and didn't refer to too much trash talking. Seriously. Respect.

Yes I agree with that. I agree that Pacman should have made the fight happen with May before he re upped if Arum was the only problem Mayweather had.